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‘It’s A Difficult One’ – Under-23 Boss Unsure What To Do With Striker

Striker Elias Sorensen has not had a successful loan spell with Carlisle by any stretch of the imagination. He has made just 9 appearances with only 3 of those being starts. However, he has only one start in the league and only lasted until the half in that one.

In fact, the 20-year-old has amassed only 153 minutes in the 14 league games he’s been eligible for since joining. While that’s better than what transpired in his loan move to Blackpool last year, where he only played 32 minutes in total, it’s still just not working out for Elias or Newcastle.

Earlier this month, Newcastle Under-23 boss Neil Redfearn made the following comments about Sorensen’s loan spell:

“It is an important year for him, it’s his second loan. So it’s important from that point of view. From our point of view and the club’s we just want him to play. We wanted him to go in there and play.

“But it’s like everything else, as soon as you get in that first team environment you have to be playing well enough to get picked. He needs to fight his way back into the side. Maybe this spell where he’s out of it is a good experience for him. He’ll learn to fight.

“It’s different at the Under-23s with Newcastle, he’s a big fish in a little pond as far as reserve team football is concerned. But you go to a first-team environment he has other strikers in front of him and he’ll have to fight his way in.

“Obviously, he’s a top player and only a young kid, so it will be a good experience for him.”

While Redfearn obviously wanted Sorensen to play for Carlisle, he at least saw some benefit in the youngster having to fight for his place. However, it’s not improved at all in the last month for the young Dane.

Redfearn made those comments on October 3rd. Since then, Elias has only played 32 minutes of League Two football for Carlisle. That came as a second-half substitute at Plymouth.

While he did get a full 90 minutes against Blackpool in the EFL Trophy, it seems that the Under-23 boss is starting to rethink his stance on this loan spell for Sorensen.

Redfearn has made some more comments to the Chronicle this morning:

“It’s a difficult one. I know I have said on the record in the past that he needs to fight it out, but obviously the idea of him going out on loan is that he plays.

“So if he’s on the bench and not coming on, it’s not what we want, it’s not what we need.

“The reports that we are getting back are that he’s working really hard and desperately trying to do the right things to get in so we are getting that, but there is no getting away from the fact he needs to play.”

It’s blatantly evident that Sorensen needs time on the pitch for Carlisle. However, their manager Steven Pressley is fighting for his job as Carlisle are mired in a relegation fight at the moment just 1 point above 22nd place Scunthorpe.

Pressley is relying on more experienced players at the moment but that does not seem to be working out for him. Carlisle have just one point in their last five matches.

While it looks like Newcastle will wait it out with Elias to see how the next few months go before deciding to pull the plug, if Carlisle don’t turn their fortunes around soon, Sorensen may have a new manager to impress.

26 comments so far

  • martoon

    Oct 29, 2019 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #1

    What I said on the previous topic! 😉

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Oct 29, 2019 at 12:31 PM

    Comment #2

    Not sure Shola is at fault at all. We probably can’t bring him back until the window opens, and the fact he isn’t getting much of a look in for the second loan spell in a row is more likely to point to a fault with the player.

    People mentioned the Bundesliga as an option for our loanees using Nelson and Lookman as examples. When we have a youngster close to the level of those two, fair enough, but let’s not kid ourselves on Sorenson. Last year he did well for the first time in the Second tier of the u23 development leagues.

    Most of the other loanees seem to be managing, so Shola can’t be doing too badly, or did he get lucky with the others, and the failure is the only one truly reflective of his work?

  • Jib

    Oct 29, 2019 at 12:34 PM

    Comment #3

    Shola has a sports science degree , so is probably quite capable.

  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Oct 29, 2019 at 12:41 PM

    Comment #4

    So Muto hasn’t impressed under His managers, hmmm, surely to impress you need to actually play in games!

    Goufron never impressed until he was actually selected to play in games either, funny that!

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Oct 29, 2019 at 12:41 PM

    Comment #5

    Like Redfearn says, hopefully he learns from this and realises he needs to up his work rate and his effort, both on the pitch and in training to develop his skills and attributes further.

    If he can’t manage that, then a career at NUFC is only likely if we plummet down the divisions to league 1 or 2.

    Carlisle was a sensible choice for a player who struggled to settle and spent his first couple of years struggling in a new place. They are the highest level side close to Newcastle for him to have that comfort of coming back to a familiar setting regularly.

  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Oct 29, 2019 at 12:45 PM

    Comment #6

    Sorensen was playing at much the same level last season for the reserves as he has this for Carlisle.

    Might as well bring him back or he could go to Wycombe and learn from the greatest striker in all the leagues, ever!

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Oct 29, 2019 at 12:49 PM

    Comment #7

    It might look a similar standard, but the physicality and the pressures are completely different in the U23’s as they would be playing at Carlisle. It is a test of his mentality, and at both Blackpol and Carlisle he hasn’t cut it.

    You can go back through most clubs u23’s and find players who shone there and never cut it in the first team.

    If he can learn from this and see why he is not making the team and add that extra to his game, then the loan has been a benefit. If he can’t, then he probably won’t go much further with us.

  • Jib

    Oct 29, 2019 at 12:49 PM

    Comment #8

    Maybe you could do an Adebayo Akinfenwa rap
    That should test your rhyming skills

  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Oct 29, 2019 at 12:54 PM

    Comment #9

    Can’t see that his work rate is a problem, it wasn’t last season, more likely to be his working with lesser quality players.

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Oct 29, 2019 at 1:02 PM

    Comment #10

    It has been said by their coach that he doesn’t work hard enough in games, and he was praised by Pressley for showing an increased work rate in the game he played in the cup recently.

    The few times I have seen him, his work off the ball is limited, and definitely doesn’t reflect a good work rate.

    That it is more obvious now is more likely to do with it no longer being age group football, and the requirements being far greater.

  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Oct 29, 2019 at 1:06 PM

    Comment #11

    A few have commented on his work rate and that he doesn’t do enough off the ball.

  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Oct 29, 2019 at 1:10 PM

    Comment #12


    Here you go.

    https://www.youtube.com › watch

  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Oct 29, 2019 at 1:10 PM

    Comment #13

    Naaah that one didn’t work!

  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Oct 29, 2019 at 1:11 PM

    Comment #14
  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Oct 29, 2019 at 1:12 PM

    Comment #15

    Yep that’s the one. 🙂

  • Bills Son Is Back

    Oct 29, 2019 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #16

    Jail – Bills Son is Back,
    What happened to you lauding the attacking football Brewcey was going to bring?

    Twisting away again Jail.

    I’ve said we might see a more attacking style from Bruce – Rafa would never have brought Gayle, Muto and Atsu on when we were down to ten men and 1-1 at home.

    That doesn’t make Bruce a better manager than Rafa – he isn’t – but it does show that he is prepared to risk a 2-1 defeat to try and get a 2-1 win.

    We are 10 games into a season with three young forwards who don’t have more than 40 Prem games between them. And we have 6pts more than last season.

    I still think there is attacking potential in the players we have – but it’s just as important to get the two CM players right – I would defo start with Hayden and Shelvey against West Ham.

    This squad, and Bruce, could still surprise yet.

  • martoon

    Oct 29, 2019 at 1:26 PM

    Comment #17

    Jib @3 – Fair point – I must admit I didn’t know that. It is weird though how he still does his punditry stuff for Sky – most give that up when they get a full time roll with a club?

  • martoon

    Oct 29, 2019 at 1:32 PM

    Comment #18

    Bills @16 he actually brought on Shelvey, Gayle & Atsu but I see your point – Rafa would definitely have brought Dummett on to play in front of the back 5 at the end. Neither of them are necessarily wrong just different styles!

  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Oct 29, 2019 at 1:33 PM

    Comment #19

    It’s easy to accuse players of not working hard enough and strikers in particular seem to get that criticism.

    Especially if they are in a struggling team, which Carlisle unquestionably are at the moment.

    So whether he is or isn’t putting enough effort in is pretty irrelevant, it’s obvious that Carlisle is not the place for him at present, so bring him home Mr LoanCor.

  • Pain in the Blog

    Oct 29, 2019 at 1:33 PM

    Comment #20

    The Oxford English Dictionary gives one of the definitions of ‘flannel’ as ‘bland, fluent talk used to avoid a difficult subject’ and dictionary.com defines it in the same sense as ‘nonsense, humbug, empty talk ‘. That’s quite apt for Ashley’s new flagship brand. Perhaps the government, under the Trades Descriptions Act should insist that he renames his other main businesses ‘Lies Direct’ and ‘House of Fibber’.

  • Ron Knee

    Oct 29, 2019 at 2:01 PM

    Comment #21

    Duncan Alexander@oilysailor

    No-one born since 1984 has ever voted in a general election when Chelsea weren’t top of the PL. A big test for Frank Lampard’s young team.

  • lochinvar

    Oct 29, 2019 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #22

    Pain in the blog @20
    Good call
    ….under the Trades Descriptions Act should insist that he renames his other main businesses ‘Lies Direct’ and ‘House of Fibber’.
    or maybe ‘House of Flubber’ as he’s like a rubber ball bouncing all over the place

  • martoon

    Oct 29, 2019 at 2:14 PM

    Comment #23

    Ron Knee @21 – That’s a hell of a stat!

  • Just a fan

    Oct 29, 2019 at 2:18 PM

    Comment #24

    Essex .don’t get that.
    Thought Jimmy greaves was the greatest striker ever.

  • martoon

    Oct 29, 2019 at 2:26 PM

    Comment #25

    Just been reading the report of the game on nufc.com and you can always rely on Biffa for some good lines – these 2 paragraphs sum it all up perfectly for me:

    “There’s virtually no evidence of any progression here since August; Almiron visibly trying but just not cutting it, Meanwhile, our big money buy Joelinton is seemingly expected to take the place of both Ayoze Perez and Salomon Rondon, left in splendid isolation up front to try and knock long balls down to himself in the absence of a team mate within hailing distance. It’s painful to watch.”

    “Where Rafa Benitez was constantly involved in the minutiae of his team’s play and attempting to apply delicate tweaks, his successor’s sullen and statuesque approach can’t even be painted as broad brush. Yard broom perhaps. Today, Bruce just stood and looked on as it all went to pot, no more involved than if he’d been standing on the touchline watching a local league game.”

  • Geordie-john

    Oct 29, 2019 at 8:25 PM

    Comment #26

    Get him back asap and get back playing and scoring again then get him in the first team . Need anymore advice ? LOL !
    It’s no brainer . He needs to play before he forgets how to.


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