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‘A Real Force’ – Former Magpie Thinks The Best Is Yet To Come For 23-Year-Old


Former Newcastle left-back Olivier Bernard spoke to BBC Radio Newcastle’s podcast recently about our record signing Joelinton. The owner and CEO of Durham City AFC made some astute observations about the young striker.

Inside Futbol have published the following comments from the Frenchman about Joelinton.

“I still think we are not using Joelinton in the right way and I still think he is a bit confused about his role in front of the attack.

“Looking at him, he wants to play as a second striker and not as a target man at the minute.

“So I think there is a lot of coaching to go in there, but once you have the coaching done, I think he will become a real force for the club, but he’s clearly not quite ready.”

Bernard’s comments reflect a bit of what Alan Shearer mentioned about Joelinton after the Norwich draw. Alan, though, was a lot less forgiving than Olivier in his assessment of what Joelinton was doing wrong upfront.

This is what Shearer said about the 23-year-old after the disappointing Norwich draw:

“But in Joelinton’s case you’re never going to score enough goals whilst you’re content and happy with this.

“Joelinton takes a throw-in in the first half, and then there’s a lack of reaction to get into the box after the ball goes into play.

“If you play that way, you’re not going to score the goals.

“When the ball is eventually played into the box, he’s not in there at all. It gets played out to the edge of the box.”

One of the issues with Joelinton is he’s not getting in the position to score goals. We’ve seen him on occasion make gut-busting runs into the box but not often enough.

We saw him do that against Rochdale at St James Park when he got on the end of Tom Allan’s cross to score just his second goal of the season.

On Tuesday, he made a run against Oxford that Bentaleb put on a dime for him. However, on that occasion, his finishing let him down.

Whether Joelinton can become a force for Newcastle remains to be seen. He doesn’t seem to possess the instincts of a natural goalscorer. Over the summer, Newcastle will need to bring in a quality striker.

Joelinton can still play his part and have a successful Newcastle career. Whether that is as a number nine is doubtful at the moment, however, he still has time to make his mark.


53 comments so far

  • #BoycottAshley ( OP)

    Feb 7, 2020 at 2:37 PM

    Comment #1

    We are not using Joelinton in the right way?

    There’s no “We” in Bruce

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  • RobLeenio

    Feb 7, 2020 at 2:42 PM

    Comment #2

    Apparently she was heavily involved in getting the Anthony Joshua – Ruiz fight to happen in Saudi.

    Here’s her virtually ringside

    https://www.instagram.com/p/B5y0_uYlZZ9/

    So, well connected with the burgeoning Saudi sports industry and the Government officials responsible for it.

    It’s possible that she could be involved in any purchase, in some way. No reason to doubt it. It’s not really all that relevant, though, at the end of the day.

    The thing we’re left with is, as ever, the question as to whether or not Ashley actually wants to sell.

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  • bettyswallocks

    Feb 7, 2020 at 2:42 PM

    Comment #3

    Amand Staveley is a shrewd operator . She has obviously involved Carla di Bella in the takeover bid to charm MBS into parting with the spondulix after he’s gone a bit cold.
    By the look of wanton desire and lust in his eyes as she walked towards him she is obviously doing a good job. I mean if she has indicated that she might do a turn if he parts then I’m sure he’ll fall for it. To own a PL football club and have access to a real beauty like that has got to be good value for 340m.

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  • Munster Mag

    Feb 7, 2020 at 2:43 PM

    Comment #4

    Who was the guy on here talking about lucked Amanda’s arse? He’s gonna get even more excited now!! 🙂

    2
  • hibbit

    Feb 7, 2020 at 2:50 PM

    Comment #5

    Munster Mag
    this son your so proud of would you be happy with him reading some of the filth you post on here???
    i’m sure other kids will read this blog at times,

    of course that’s just my fair and balanced appraisal of your resent posts,

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  • DaveD1000

    Feb 7, 2020 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #6

    last one

    Kevin Hunter
    @KevinHunter2408

    Jesus wept our own #nufc reality tv “ the saudashians!” Couldn’t make this up if you tried for a month!

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  • lesh

    Feb 7, 2020 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #7

    Bernard thinks “there is a lot of coaching to go in there, but once you have the coaching done, I think he will become a real force for the club, but he’s clearly not quite ready.”

    It depends on who’s doing the coaching and if it’s Brucie boy, we’ll not hold our breath.

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  • lesh

    Feb 7, 2020 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #8

    Ashley’s interest seems to be in enhancing Fraser Group’s image by acquiring some high end brands – the latest being the purchase of 18% of Mulberry.

    I wonder if the Saudi fund were to buy major stakes in brands such as Mulberry that Ashley might have an interest in might be the basis for an NUFC related conversation between him and the Saudis?

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  • AncientC

    Feb 7, 2020 at 3:02 PM

    Comment #9

    When you read an indirect link in the news between the Kardashians and the Newcastle takeover, you honestly have to wonder if The Onion writers have taken over the MSM.

    There was a great comment by Guardiola to the press today. You get a real insight into a winning mentality when the chips are down.

    ‘Guardiola says his players are not suffering a crisis of confidence.’

    : “They’ve always had the courage to play,” he said. “We do not spend 30 seconds wasting time or passing to the keeper. We always play and we will do that until the last day I am here.”

    It really wasn’t that long ago that Keegan was making statements like that about a frightening Newcastle side.

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  • bettyswallocks

    Feb 7, 2020 at 3:08 PM

    Comment #10

    We are obviously facing a huge confidence crisis then. How many times does the ball get played backwards ending up with the keeper from the edge of the oppositions 18 yard box. Surely the coach has to call the shots in these instances and forbid the ball to be played backwards from attacking positions.

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  • DaveD1000

    Feb 7, 2020 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #12

    Betty
    that is my pet hate I realise that occasionally it is necessary to regroup and try a different angle but the amount of times we use it does my pan in

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  • AncientC

    Feb 7, 2020 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #13

    Well put, Jib, Without a hint of irony from your wordpress avatar.

    This is the difference between a Guardiola and a Steve Bruce. One will die on his feet attempting to play the game to perfection… the other will try four at the back and get cowed after one attempt.

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  • bettyswallocks

    Feb 7, 2020 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #14

    Jib………. Are you suggesting that my opinions are primitive or that my persona is one of simian proportions.

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  • Unused Substitute

    Feb 7, 2020 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #15

    “…once you have the coaching done, I think he will become a real force for the club…” who’s going to do the coaching?

    “One of the issues with Joelinton is he’s not getting in the position to score goals.” I’d say he is reluctant to get in scoring positions.

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  • bettyswallocks

    Feb 7, 2020 at 3:22 PM

    Comment #16

    Dave D………. Yes I agree. It’s infuriating to watch attacks that could be promising wasted by playing negative backward passes.
    The directive on this has to come from the head coach and I for one would nor allow such tactics if I was head coach.
    Bruce needs to man up and fulfil his obligation to the fans by prohibiting such negative play.

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  • Jib

    Feb 7, 2020 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #17

    bettyswallocks
    I’m suggesting that your opinions are primitive

    “Surely the coach has to call the shots in these instances and forbid the ball to be played backwards from attacking positions.”

    That comment marks you down as about 25 years out of date

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  • Jib

    Feb 7, 2020 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #18

    Oft times LPool and Man City will play the ball all the way back to the GK
    from seeming good positions , just to pull the opposition out of shape.

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  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Feb 7, 2020 at 3:29 PM

    Comment #19

    BBS

    I was going to make a reasoned and respectful reply to your (admittedly slightly amusing) attack on mine and OLGs chat last night that we enjoyed even if you or some others didn’t. However your nasty attack on Munster, comment 11 a previous thread, made me realise that it would be a waste of time so I won’t bother.

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  • 9

    Feb 7, 2020 at 3:30 PM

    Comment #20

    Back into our own half, repeatedly, from attacking positions does my head in, I hate it, can’t stand it. And, of course, Joelinton is not, never has been, and never will be a goal-scoring No 9. Get a goalscorer in!!!!!!

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  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Feb 7, 2020 at 3:38 PM

    Comment #21

    On the thread, I do think that Brucie must have an obsession with trying to fit Joelinton into a peghole that fits him.

    I would have thought if he was to take a step backwards and play him from the bench a few times might be a better short term answer.

    He could either give Toure, Charman or Sorensen a start or if he thinks they aren’t ready (when will they be?) then play Miggy and ASM as a front two and get Jonjo back into the side.

    Apologies if anyone has already said this.

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  • bettyswallocks

    Feb 7, 2020 at 3:41 PM

    Comment #22

    Jib……… I have to disagree . The object of the exercise is to put the ball into the opposition’s net. How can this be achievable when the opportunities to do so are considerably reduced by players not having the mindset to focus on this concept but instead continually play the ball backwards away from the target?

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  • bettyswallocks

    Feb 7, 2020 at 3:46 PM

    Comment #23

    Joking apart, it would be interesting to see what a Guardiola type coach could do with our squad. I’m sure if they were coached differently they could play a lot more fluently and in a far more attacking style.
    There are clubs in the PL with less talented players than ours but with more progressive coaches who are far more positive and pleasing to the eye than we are.

    1
  • toon22

    Feb 7, 2020 at 3:51 PM

    Comment #24

    Im liking this years fakeover
    They have been loads more inventive with the lies the only problem being they have raised the bar, so to speak, and will need to up their game next year

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  • bettyswallocks

    Feb 7, 2020 at 3:58 PM

    Comment #26

    Toon 22……………. Are you seriously still suggesting that this whole takeover saga was stage managed by Ashley and his PR? Incorporating the Wall Street Journal , Financial Times etc etc just to justify Asley’s position and sell a few more season tickets?

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  • Jib

    Feb 7, 2020 at 4:05 PM

    Comment #27

    bettyswallocks
    Steady tiger
    He’ll be accusing you of being a paid lackey
    Even though you are in Tanzania

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  • toon22

    Feb 7, 2020 at 4:05 PM

    Comment #28

    No
    Im saying he pretends to want to sell then pulls the sale with stupid clauses nobody will agree to
    The buyers are quite real
    He did go to see the Mansours but its obvious he had no intention of actually selling the club then either
    Sky , and other news outlets , go with it due to needing something to report

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  • bettyswallocks

    Feb 7, 2020 at 4:06 PM

    Comment #29

    Jib……… After reading the article all I can say is that there is still a lot of work to be done as very little of what they have apparently been working on has as yet manifested itself on to the pitch.

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  • toon22

    Feb 7, 2020 at 4:06 PM

    Comment #30

    Or are we to believe he has actually tried to sell us at least 10 times but every single time they were time wasters ?
    Do you honestly believe that ?

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  • RobLeenio

    Feb 7, 2020 at 4:07 PM

    Comment #31

    bettys, apparently it now also incorporates Bloomberg, another one of the World’s foremost and upstanding financial institutions.

    Ashley’s going to owe a lot of favours…..

    The takeover is real, no doubt about it, the only thing we don’t know is if Ashley will decide to sell.

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  • toon22

    Feb 7, 2020 at 4:08 PM

    Comment #32

    That some how Jabba is saving us from some kind of financial doom?
    That somehow hes doing his best with the club and wants to make sure the right guy takes over ?

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  • toon22

    Feb 7, 2020 at 4:09 PM

    Comment #33

    Remember last years buyers ?
    Time wasters
    The year before, when he got Kenyon to pretend to buy us , he was just about in Jabbas employment
    The Mansours , it seems they were potless, nee cash

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  • toon22

    Feb 7, 2020 at 4:10 PM

    Comment #34

    The current Arab guy, one of the richest in the world
    No offer made
    See the pattern ?
    You cant buy something if its not for sale

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  • bettyswallocks

    Feb 7, 2020 at 4:12 PM

    Comment #35

    Toon 22………… Ok fair enough. I don’t think anyone can dispute the fact that Ashley would want all his own way and a bag to put it in during a negotiation.

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  • geordietom

    Feb 7, 2020 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #36

    i’m still positive the takeover is gonna happen …

    infact i cant wait the sooner the better then TOOL22 will sling his hook …

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  • geordietom

    Feb 7, 2020 at 4:17 PM

    Comment #37

    TOOL22 …

    do you work for the Illuminati ?…

    2
  • Tonyd3b54

    Feb 7, 2020 at 4:17 PM

    Comment #38

    I’ve never had a problem with how Bruce deploys Joel. He’s essentially forced into playing as a main striker due to lack of options. The problem I have is the style of play. They need to play higher up the pitch especially when defending and there needs to be a tactical approach with movement around Joel and runs being made into space behind and around him. Until then you will keep seeing this crap football

    1
  • Jib

    Feb 7, 2020 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #39

    the Mansours
    the Mexicans
    Peter Kenyon
    BZG
    Amanda Staveley x 2
    That’s 6 NOT 10

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  • hibbit

    Feb 7, 2020 at 4:24 PM

    Comment #40

    Tonyd3b54 an honest question ???

    if Andy Carroll was fully fit would Joelinton get on the pitch, if yes were do you think Bruce would play him

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