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Magpie Gets Off The Mark For His Loan Club But His Night Ends In Disappointment



Kelland Watts was the only Magpie out on loan on display this evening in the Carabao Cup. The 20-year-old made his second straight start for Plymouth Argyle as they took on Lleyton Orient.

It was a night of highs and lows for Watts. The center-back got off the mark for his loan club with a goal in the 34th minute to put the Pilgrims ahead 2-0.

However, Lleyton Orient clawed their way back into the game with three second-half goals including one in extra time to advance to the third round.

Goalkeeper Jake Turner was on the bench for Morecambe who defeated Oldham 1-0 to become our third round opponents next week.

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84 comments so far

  • WLtoon

    Sep 15, 2020 at 10:54 PM

    Comment #1

    Damn good show this about TBOB,
    Tally Ho Boys.

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  • bettyswallocks

    Sep 15, 2020 at 10:54 PM

    Comment #2

    Leighton Baines has announced his retirement from football.

    Sunderland have expressed an interest.

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  • WLtoon

    Sep 15, 2020 at 10:56 PM

    Comment #3

    Weird weather up here mind, it`s chucking it down but it`s red hot , at 10.55 pm.
    Am i in Tenerife? Nah, just the British climate is barmy.

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  • WLtoon

    Sep 15, 2020 at 10:57 PM

    Comment #4

    Haha nice one Betty

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  • Tonyd3b54

    Sep 15, 2020 at 11:05 PM

    Comment #5

    Wow Joel was awful. It’s like he’s given up or Bruce has told him to be terrible intentionally so we can get another striker in. Only bright spots are fraser miggy and looks like no injuries

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  • Kevin Vegan

    Sep 15, 2020 at 11:10 PM

    Comment #6

    Called it on Fraser, Gillespie and Barlaser getting a game 🙂 I was a little optomostic in my scoreline prediction of 2-0, but right to warn that Blackburn could give us a game. 2/3 isn’t bad, shame I’m too optomistic for my own good or it would’ve been 3/3 🙂

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  • Kevin Vegan

    Sep 15, 2020 at 11:11 PM

    Comment #7

    Sounds like Everton might be selling Moise Kean. I’d take a look at him. Think he’s going to come good if he gets a run of games.

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  • lesh

    Sep 15, 2020 at 11:32 PM

    Comment #8

    Bettysbollocks

    You’re in good form again – it must be well after Pimms-o-clock by now.

    Don’t forget to get your vitamin C – take an extra cherry with your drink.

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  • Paul141726

    Sep 15, 2020 at 11:48 PM

    Comment #9

    Nice to see Kel scored for PAFC. But 3 second half goals for Lleyton, uh oh.
    Now, from the few reports I have read, we were not looking all that interested in our game with Blackburn. Bit of a letdown from the weekend. Maybe to be expected?
    Anyway, good to read that Gillespie had a good game and Fraser is off the mark from a good assist from Miggy.
    Hey, a win is a win!

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  • Scythe For Bruce

    Sep 16, 2020 at 12:24 AM

    Comment #10

    Gillespie’s good showing will put pressure on Darlow to perform now. I reckon Bruce won’t hesitate to give Gilly a game in the Premier League if necessary. Still, we need Dubs back sooner rather than later 🙂

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 16, 2020 at 12:37 AM

    Comment #11

    Paul,
    10 changes, very few fully match sharp, and an unfamiliar lineup that didn’t have any real cohesion or understanding between players and roles.

    Having said that, making excuses just covers the fact it was a very poor performance all round. Out passed, and were second best throughout. Blackburn didn’t play Arma from the start, not sure whether they left more regulars out or not, but they were the better side.

    They struggled in the final third though, and despite more chances, rarely really gave Gillespie much of a test.

    We got the breakaway goal, finished reasonably well by Fraser, and a well weighted pass from Miggy.

    Gillespie didn’t have much of note to do, but came and took a few crosses, and didn’t put a glove out of place all game. Based on that, a capable third choice keeper to replace the Dilsh.

    Good to see Clark on the pitch, made some good challenges, and was probably the pick of the bunch outfield. I think the Miggy bias due to popularity and the Fraser scoring on debut have swayed voters there way, but given how little we attacked or had the ball, difficult to say they were our best players.

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  • Paul141726

    Sep 16, 2020 at 12:44 AM

    Comment #12

    Yeah, very good that Clark got some game time. He may well be needed as the games come fast and furious. Used to think Shar was our best sub in the center, simply because he looked good when chosen. But he has not been the same since the re-start of the end of last season. Strange, that.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 16, 2020 at 1:00 AM

    Comment #13

    Paul,
    I think Schaar is aware he doesn’t suit a back 4, and has an eye on his next move. Unless a new contract is potentially on the table, I think his attention is elsewhere, and best moved on.

    If you pick a back 3 from our defenders, Schaar is a definite, if it is a back 4 with full backs who are tasked with pushing on, then his tendency to step out leaves us exposed. That then leads to him making an increased number of questionable and rash decisions.

    He hasn’t played well defensively for us in a back 4, and he wasn’t involved under Rafa initially, until injuries and form forced a change to 3 at the back.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 16, 2020 at 1:02 AM

    Comment #14

    If there is no plan to offer a new deal, and we can get money for Schaar this summer, then cash in. If all we can do is get a loan deal, then he should stay to give us options in how we set up through the season. No point loaning – unless a significant loan fee and they pay 100% of wages – for him to leave on a free next summer.

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  • Paul141726

    Sep 16, 2020 at 1:04 AM

    Comment #15

    So right about that LG. Anyway, I realize its very early morning there, so, hope to you all have a good night.

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  • Kevin Vegan

    Sep 16, 2020 at 1:05 AM

    Comment #16

    Good to see Kell score his first goal for PAFC, sure they’ll love him in no time 🙂

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Sep 16, 2020 at 1:06 AM

    Comment #17

    Paul,
    Yeah, just off to bed now. Talk more another time.

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  • lesh

    Sep 16, 2020 at 1:45 AM

    Comment #18

    Take care all.

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  • swemag

    Sep 16, 2020 at 2:03 AM

    Comment #19

    Starting to wonder if the Joelinton deal was some sort of scam for Mike Ashley to get money out of the club. Pay the agent that then gives it back through some other entity. Then sell the club that still owes you money.
    Maybe the Saudi deal was already started back then.

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  • giimps

    Sep 16, 2020 at 2:20 AM

    Comment #20

    Swemag, i read somewhere Joelinton was owned by multiple companies, one of which was a Peter Kenyon company ,conspiracy theorists are saying he agreed to make it look like he was trying to buy the club, so the slug did not have to pull money out on 2 transfer windows and the Joelinton deal was a sweetener to pay for his services.

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  • Nicky the ball tosser

    Sep 16, 2020 at 2:38 AM

    Comment #21

    We probably paid maybe 20% too much for Joel, and certainly have used him incorrectly.

    Hindsight is of course always 20/20, but it would’ve been much better to sign Rondon, with the money received for Perez used to buy Joelinton as a direct replacement.

    He was a good player when he arrived, but he’s fallen back quite considerably, and frankly it’s the clubs fault far more than the player’s, in my opinion.

    Needs to be used behind Wilson or Carroll, as a wide attacker or second striker.

    You might as well play St Max or Almiron up top. He simply isn’t a centre forward.

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  • Nicky the ball tosser

    Sep 16, 2020 at 3:23 AM

    Comment #22

    Also, you’d hope that it was a very structured deal, with staggered payments and multiple performance related clauses.

    Should Joelinton ultimately be a success, the club will do well out of it.

    In the event that he turns out to be a flop, which is looking ever more likely, the outlay will be considerably less.

    You’d certainly hope this is the case anyway.

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  • lesh

    Sep 16, 2020 at 4:33 AM

    Comment #23

    giimps

    @20

    For what it’s worth, I too had thought that the seeming inflated fee for Joelinton might have included some ‘commission’ for Kenyon’s supposed takeover or other activities.

    £40m seems high for Joelinton and any bunce must’ve amounted to tens of and one must wonder what else it might’ve covered.

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  • lesh

    Sep 16, 2020 at 4:35 AM

    Comment #24

    Nicky the ball tosser

    @22

    Yes, a max of £40m makes more sense if that included bonuses.

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  • Nicky the ball tosser

    Sep 16, 2020 at 5:10 AM

    Comment #25

    Yeah, well, we don’t actually know what we paid. 40 mill sounds a bit of a stretch, but he did come off an impressive season in the Bundesliga, for a side that scored plenty of goals, and in which he got his share of both goals and assists.

    Now we have Wilson, we’ll hopefully see the player he was at Hoffenheim.

    I tend to think Ashley saw the inflated prices strikers were going for and took a punt, but wildly overestimated his ability to lead the line in this league.

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  • Tyran21

    Sep 16, 2020 at 6:48 AM

    Comment #26

    I think Bruce first two choice in the front is Joel and Wilson. Just that Carrol banged in 2goals in the friendlies, so he gets the nod. Would love to see how Joel fare partnering Wilson.

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  • Optimistic prime

    Sep 16, 2020 at 6:49 AM

    Comment #27

    Nicky

    100% agree we don’t use Joelinton properly.

    Games like last night makes me think is Bruce trying to shatter his confidence, obvs not but its not a good situation.

    He who cant be mentioned didn’t want him, I don’t think its his ability, prems not for everyone.

    You wouldn’t continually ask a joiner to build brick walls if he was making a mess, you’d get him to hang your doors and get a brickie in.

    Sending him out time after time as a target man is irresponsible.

    Its Bruces responsibility to get the best out the players and i doubt there’s anyone who believes we’ve seen the best of Joelinton!

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 16, 2020 at 6:52 AM

    Comment #28

    Unfortunately as injuries start to kick in and judging on restart and preseason there’s nothing to suggest that they won’t. Then last nights players are what we have to choose from to keep us going.

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  • Ron Knee

    Sep 16, 2020 at 7:01 AM

    Comment #29

    If only the Russians had done more for the Allied cause in WW2…

    1
  • SuperShearer

    Sep 16, 2020 at 7:31 AM

    Comment #31

    @Ed & Team

    Massive fan of the blog and totally understand the need to monetise it with ads but it is getting out of hand.

    I’ve now got an ad that is taking me away from the site at regular intervals – it feels like it’s a scam as well as it has google branding telling me I’ve won a prize.

    Might be worth looking into this as it feels like a phishing scam to me.

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  • Mund

    Sep 16, 2020 at 7:38 AM

    Comment #32

    Morning all

    Thankfully a new day after the carry on, on here yesterday.

    Need some transfer activity to wet the lips

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  • GhostToon

    Sep 16, 2020 at 7:42 AM

    Comment #33

    Wow what a shocker of a game. Great seeing Fraser score and linking up well with Miggy.

    As for Joelinton I’m lost for words. People keep saying he’s playing out of position, however my worry is his lack of effort and disinterest in the game.

    Miggy is constantly played out of position all the time as he is use to playing centrally as a CAM not as a winger.

    However the big difference is even though Miggy is playing out of position all the time he still has a go and still runs at the opposition. Whereas Joelinton gently jogs around and falls over at every opportunity.

    Apart from Joelinton I think our weakest areas are in midfield. Constantly playing deep all the time and inviting the other team to attack with no players pressing hard.

    Young direct and energetic players like Soumare, De La Cruz, Aouar, Florentino, Camavinga, Almada, Gravenberch brought in along with Loftus-Cheek or Kessie loaned in could rectify this however I cant see too many coming in now as we need a striker so badly.

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  • Mund

    Sep 16, 2020 at 7:43 AM

    Comment #34

    Big Joe is a joke of a footballer. He will never succeed here.

    He should be a winger or should be behind etc etc BS he is crap simples

    Tell me I’m wrong and prove it

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  • GhostToon

    Sep 16, 2020 at 7:44 AM

    Comment #35

    Morning Mund,

    How you doing this fine morning

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  • Mund

    Sep 16, 2020 at 7:45 AM

    Comment #36

    Ghost

    This isn’t footy manager mate we have no chance of signing any of that lot pal.

    Stars of the future dem lot

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  • Mund

    Sep 16, 2020 at 7:45 AM

    Comment #37

    Ghost

    Morning mate all good how’s you?

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  • Mund

    Sep 16, 2020 at 7:48 AM

    Comment #38

    Loftus maybe a possibility but I think Lamps will let him rot where he is. A youngster with no game time or place to develop is detrimental to any youngster.

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  • GhostToon

    Sep 16, 2020 at 7:51 AM

    Comment #39

    Mund

    Yeah I get that I didnt mean all of them exactly just throwing some names around to make a point of what we are lacking.

    Meant more if we had additional funds (40m) and maybe getting one in on loan.

    Tbh I think we are just stuck with some bang average players in midfield. Our defence and attack look good so at least thats something.

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  • Mund

    Sep 16, 2020 at 7:55 AM

    Comment #40

    Ghost

    Would love them names mate and some real quality. Hopefully a couple more signings to come and with cash as that will tell us more than just a new signing.

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