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Newcastle Hit The Self-Destruct Button Yesterday But Have to Dust Themselves Off



Steve Bruce didn’t try to finagle an excuse after yesterday’s shocking display. In reality, there was nothing tangible for him to grasp onto to adequately explain the performance.

Bruce gave the perfect description of what the team had done after a shining start to the season – they threw in a hand grenade. After two games, one of which was a resounding win, we find ourselves in the bottom half with a negative goal difference.

It’s early day and there is a quick turnaround with a generous cup match at Morecambe on Wednesday. Then it’s off to Tottenham, who will be playing their fourth match in a week with a Carabao Cup and Europa League match mid-week.

Despite things going our way with the schedule, optimism has suffered a cruel blow after the performance yesterday. It really didn’t take long for the questions that plagued Bruce last season to come back to the fore.


Bruce had done well to get the signings he wanted in the door. He had managed the unthinkable in getting a want-away, stingy, and emotionally distant owner to spend money on sensible transfers.

It seemed like progress. A word rarely spoken in the Ashley era. Sure there would be ups and downs. A poor performance here and there. But yesterday was not just a poor performance. Newcastle hit the self destruct button.

Now they must climb out of the crater, wipe themselves down, and make sure this season is not a repeat of the last. They can start the rebound this week by advancing past Morecambe and putting in a performance at Spurs.

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53 comments so far

  • Mund

    Sep 21, 2020 at 7:55 AM

    Comment #1

    We need Bruce gone and that’s the simple and only fact right there

    Munster you embarrass yourself when you compare the two managers you really do.

    Bruce has shown how out of depth he really is. No organisation whatsoever. Players all over the place out of position and not one plays for each other all about individual. Where’s the communication? Where’s the movement? Where’s the ideas? The plan? Tactics? None of that was on show yesterday.

    Bruce lovers jog on

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  • Mund

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:02 AM

    Comment #3

    Ashley has showed me over the last couple of weeks he has balls. He wants the Staveley led consortium to be approved and has got some of the best lawyers around to achieve this.

    My point is if he would go as far as he has done with all this legal and the big statement he released and then the quick quality signings he brought in all to protect his investment. So you would think him seeing that shit show yesterday might give him the idea of replacing Bruce as keeping him will damage his investment and future plans.

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  • Bambams

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:02 AM

    Comment #4

    Well its the next day, folks still unhappy ? I was well peed off after watching that but lets face it Brighton were much better than we were.

    One interesting aspect is Miggy, I really like the lad and I had hoped our three new signings would be playing in the same team as Miggy.

    For me the long balls up to Big Andy rarely pays off, its a bit of an easier route to take but I cant really recall any great success.

    I had hoped Miggy just behind Willson, ASM, Fraser on the wings and we would at least have four players with pace to counter attack.

    Our biggest problem, for me is we keep the ball at the back far too long or once we do attack and are near their 18 yard box, rather than more forward passing we go back again and allow the opposition to regroup. Time and time again we put pressure on our defence because our midfield cannot keep the ball.

    But we are only two games into the season, its not the end of the world, we just need to keep the faith that there are three worse teams than us AND that Blackstone Chambers can get this bloody takeover completed by Christmas.

    Its not ideal !

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  • Mund

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:04 AM

    Comment #5

    Bruce is getting paid a fortune but I’ll tell you for a fact right now I could of had those lads playing better and with more ideas than what Bruce let walk out yesterday.

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  • Mund

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:07 AM

    Comment #6

    Bambams

    Correct mate we are only two games in but when you watch your lads with no clue, no ideas, no plan A never mind plan B, no tactics and no idea on how to change.

    He is clueless and totally incapable of doing anything with this team

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  • Bambams

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:09 AM

    Comment #7

    mund #3

    I like that thought mate, but unless AshLIE can give assurances to whoever he approaches that the takeover will happen and they can have a decent contract, say 4 years, I think we would struggle to appoint anyone decent.

    I was talking exactly the same to my mate last night, we both hoped AshLIE could now approach Poch and bring him in. He is allegedly the man or one of that the consortium want.

    Bruce has the lowest win rate ever in the PL and that happened for a reason.

    Lets see what happens in next three games, but i think you could be right, AshLIE will not want to risk relegation at all and lose his £345 million

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  • Ron Knee

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:09 AM

    Comment #8

    “…we just need to keep the faith that there are three worse teams than us…”

    Rinse and repeat.

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  • Mund

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:14 AM

    Comment #9

    Bambams

    I hear a lot about his character and how ruthless he is, well time to show us how ruthless he can be. If he wants this club to be sold to Staveley and Co which still could take a little time then he has to get rid of Bruce. Even Eddie Howe would be a far better option than Bruce right now and surely we would get him with a snap of a finger.

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  • Bambams

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:14 AM

    Comment #10

    Ron Knee

    Its something I look at every season mate, thats what happens after 13 years of AshLIE.

    I still think though AshLIE will be gone by Christmas, this has to be the case and new professional owners take us forward.

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  • Just a Fat Dave Bassett

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:14 AM

    Comment #11

    People got carried away with our signings. Apart from Wilson, we haven’t really improved any position. Lewis is good but no better than Willems. Hendrick is no better than Colback. And Fraser will only give us extra depth as he’s no better than Almiron who he might keep out the team which in my eyes would make us worse. Much as Fraser ASM and Almiron are exciting players I really doubt all three should be in the same team. We need a passer, a creative midfielder pulling the strings otherwise we don’t have anyone capable of picking out their runs apart from Shelvey. But if you play too many lightweight attackers that don’t track back you need someone stronger or better defensively than Shelvey. Barely any of our players are good at passing. I’d have brought in Swift from Reading on the cheap or Buendia if there was money to spend. They’d give us more possession. After failing to get Watkins I’d also have got Armstrong as he is capable of good link up play which at least one attacker needs to be if you’re not going to rely on individual brilliance.

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  • GhostToon

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:17 AM

    Comment #12

    Mund

    We have a better team than Brighton player for player however our team just isnt set up properly and are coached to play too deep all the time even against the smaller teams. I agree with everything you said and that its down to Brucie.

    I also agree with what you said regarding Ashley. Originally he only wanted Brucie to keep us in the league each year. Now though its a different ball game as he has to protect his investment. So wouldnt be surprised if he gets replaced if results dont change in the near future.

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  • Bambams

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:18 AM

    Comment #13

    Mund

    I hear you fella, Eddie would be a huge upgrade.

    Bruce just stands there and as you say we have no other way of playing.

    I think we might get some good news soon, we know talks are ongoing and the silence is defeaning. Possibly a compromise is being discussed, who knows.

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  • Mund

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:18 AM

    Comment #14

    Maxi for some reason yesterday wasn’t 100%. We saw last year that he could do a job defending and tracking back but yesterday his head wasn’t in it and some stupid decisions by the lad.

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  • Mund

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:22 AM

    Comment #15

    Bambams I hope so mate I really do.

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  • sing in the corner

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:23 AM

    Comment #16

    Morning people.
    The Rafa thing will rumble on,no question.
    But I look at it like this..
    You can talk ad infinitum about budgets, points haul, league position etc
    It’s difficult to nail down a real conclusion when we head down that road
    For me,the main difference is / was that Rafa had a vision, it’s all about the process, the ‘long game’ – pardon me 🙂
    Laying the foundations,building a team the right way.
    I was so disappointed when Bruce came in,the sour taste about the treatment of Rafa still sharp in the mouth.
    Bruce – nice guy,Geordie, etc etc has no concept / vision,and can’t see past the end of his battered conk.
    I get the impression that we are going nowhere now. That feeling heof hope under Rafa is a distant memory.
    I will be delirious if Bruce can take us forward but I just don’t see it. I could see
    it with Rafa and for that reason I was happy wait and be a bit patient .

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  • Mund

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:25 AM

    Comment #17

    Ghost

    Potter totally outclassed Bruce in every department yesterday and it was embarrassing and shows Bruce doesn’t cut it as a premier league manager. Ashley was in attendance yesterday and hopefully he is thinking the same which I believe he could be as you don’t pay the money he is paying for them lawyers and watch Bruce blow it all up while it gets sorted

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:34 AM

    Comment #18

    So yesterdays horror show…..

    I said earlier in the week that Bruce would play Carroll with Wilson upfront and we would get dominated in midfield and what happened?

    He does not know how to play against teams who press and can pass hes never been able to do this!He is just a hoof it up the park and hope for the best merchant

    I do believe that he wants to play attacking football but he actually doesn’t have the first clue about what to do its happened at all of his clubs

    The West Ham game we only did well because they were poor even Burnley last night were pressing Leicester I think they will end up turning us over

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  • GhostToon

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:37 AM

    Comment #19

    Mund

    It was dire football. We got completely ripped apart in the space of ten minutes and looked very ordinary.

    I dont think we’ll get relegated as I think Fulham, West Brom and West Ham are weaker. However unlike other years Ashley isnt going to just sit back and take that risk if hes looking to sell.

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  • TomaKaThor

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:38 AM

    Comment #20

    All yesterday showed me is that its going to be another long season, we have some, good players and should be beating teams like Brighton… But the gulf in quality yesterday was huge and the only answer I can come up with is Bruce is the problem

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  • Mund

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:39 AM

    Comment #21

    Ghost

    Hope so mate because it will be a slog of a season again if no.

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  • Mund

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:39 AM

    Comment #22

    Not*

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  • Just a Fat Dave Bassett

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:40 AM

    Comment #23

    Last reason Dubravka was single handedly the reason this didn’t happen every single week. Having a superhero for a GK isn’t a tactic and it’s not something the manager can claim to be responsible for, especially as he didn’t even buy him. Without Dubravka we’d have had between 15-30 points last year.

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  • Just a Fat Dave Bassett

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:42 AM

    Comment #24

    The longer Bruce stays the more he stamps his style on the team and the worse we get, and we might never get sold if we are in the bottom 3. Howe would get this team top 10 I’m sure. What annoys me is he’s playing the worst defensive football ever and we aren’t even keeping clean sheets. If you are going to park the bus at the very least you should be to point to one of the best defensive records. He needs to justify playing that way!

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:44 AM

    Comment #25

    Also if Bruce is going to insist on Hayden and Shelvey in a midfield 2 this will happen most weeks

    There was a reason why Rafa went 343 with Shelvey not in the team as you need someone pretty mobile in a 2 to cover the spaces

    At least under Bruce games are a hell of a lot more entertaining with more chances, goals and lovely football….. for the opposition!!

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  • martoon

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:51 AM

    Comment #26

    You can’t sugar coat it that it was a terrible day at the office and we were out-played and could not cope with their tactics. However as usual the hysterics on here are beyond belief – we’ve had terrible performances before and bounced back so hopefully we can do it again against a weary Spurs!

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  • t hibbitt

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #27

    what got to me yesterday was our total lack of preparation , did bruce and his coaches not watch the brighton chelsea game,

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  • Mag52

    Sep 21, 2020 at 8:54 AM

    Comment #28

    Just before everyone heads down to Sussex looking for Beachy Head, we’ve had these dire performances in the past, often following a good result, when the team, without exception, were lifeless. We had a few under Rafa, we had some under Pardew, and we had some last season.
    The big test is to see how the team/manager react to that display and perform in our next PL game.

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  • Shoulders knees

    Sep 21, 2020 at 9:00 AM

    Comment #29

    Hibbitt

    Spot on there, what did they do all week? Delight in last weeks victory ? That was gone the next day , rehab and concentrate on the next game, this week should be inquest into yesterday how to counter this happening again , work out how to get past Morecombe and put PLANS in place for Spurs from Thursday.
    Coaches and Managers should earn their corn during the week on training ground.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Sep 21, 2020 at 9:06 AM

    Comment #30

    Munter keys,

    You really need to stop embarrassing yourself now. Forget about R – – (seriously) and just judge Bruce on his own merits, not against anyone else and especially not against R – – -..

    The first half could have been Wimbledon back in the day. I’ve never seen so much hoofball in 50 odd years. The most worrying thing is the complete lack of fight, organization and professionalism, absolutely scandalous. 5 wins in 26 matches now.

    Money spent to back bruce again and we still look s—e.

    All the things you and that loon catchy allegedly hate are clearly defined in nearly every bruce performance.

    If NUFC ever do this under Bruce

    https://www.facebook.com/theEFL/videos/newcastle-united-team-goal-they-score-with-every-player-touc/1416050025089211/

    or this

    https://www.facebook.com/newcastleunited/videos/a-few-tackles-flying-around-nice/2159919857351582/

    I’ll take it all back.

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  • Kevin Vegan

    Sep 21, 2020 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #31

    It’s mad how quickly this blog swings from one end of the scale to the other.

    Last week everyone was full of praise for the team and the manager and there was frequent talk of top 10 finishes, and those of us who were critical were getting set upon from all sides.

    Now the players are getting slated, the manager is getting a hiding and there’s more talk of relegation that mid-table.

    Reality sits somewhere between these extremes. We were alright last week, decent win but had a few lucky escapes.

    This week we were below par and struggled for most of the game.

    It’s likely the rest of our season will follow a similar pattern, and we’ll probably finish up similarly to last season I’d say.

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Sep 21, 2020 at 9:17 AM

    Comment #32

    @Rotonda

    There was times under Rafa we did play some lovely stuff that team goal was certainly a good one although people forget in the championship teams literally kicked lumps out of us every week and played like a cup final so it actually wasn’t that easy to get through some games!

    Yesterday was something that I have never seen under Rafa apart from against the really top teams we were just all over the place we aren’t even solid at the back anymore despite being even more defensive

    Before folk say it was just one game it wasn’t we got dominated by Blackburn for 90 mins and Bruce did nothing to change it and it happened all of last season too

    The only game that has been an anomaly for a while has been the West Ham and Bournemouth games we have been poor for ages now

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  • Tsunki

    Sep 21, 2020 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #33

    We need to agree to self-impose a ban on this comparison of benitez to Bruce, those who compare Bruce favourably do it to either create controversy knowing it’s completely incomparable or they are deflecting the problem away from Ashley.

    The problem is the same since benitez left, Ashley hired one of the few available at the minimum level necessary to act as a subservient coach, submitting wish lists and then getting what charnley says he can have. Look at the statement Bruce made the other day, he says exactly that while purporting to be the man with the final say. Ridiculous. You can tell because we have an assembly of players for positions, but the mindsets, team aspirations and ambitions are totally their own, not factored in at all, they’re here on bring slotted in at the right price point.

    Bruce might know how to coach but with this set of players he’s probably finding it difficult to get them to work together harmoniously. It’s not like a couple of years ago when the lads were pulling in the same direction, it’s easy to see.

    Anyway, I said after the West Ham game before anyone starts crowing about being right we have to wait and see how half a dozen games or so pan out, so fairs fair, that’s what I will do before making any predictions about how our season will go.

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Sep 21, 2020 at 9:20 AM

    Comment #34

    Also see a lot of calls for Eddie Howe!? The guy has spent a fortune on poor players and he actually finished below us every season that Newcastle have been in the top flight!

    He has occasionally played some decent stuff but the last 2 seasons from them were turgid affairs and he can’t setup a defence either!

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Sep 21, 2020 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #35

    Also is anyone worried about ASM?

    He seems to be getting some rough house treatment in every game so far and doesn’t look match fit

    Just a bit worried that he gets 2nd season syndrome as we are pretty much needing him to perform better than last season but he was an unknown at the time

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  • mindshaft

    Sep 21, 2020 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #36

    Bruce has just started as he finished last season… 2 draws in last 6 games and even they were lucky … in last sixteen games he had 3 wins and other than playing well against a woeful bournemouth we looked terrible in almost every match …. this is with 9 players Bruce allegedly picked himself and the majority of the season to get the team to play his way… he’s now added another 5 of his own players and we aren’t any better…
    this isn’t going to end well

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  • GhostToon

    Sep 21, 2020 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #37

    Brucie was financially backed at all of his other clubs, Sunderland, Villa, and now us, without any improvement to on-field performances or results.

    What really boils my pi$$ though is his blase attitude to losing games. He just shrugs the shoulders and says oh well theres always the next game to put it right. Never any accountability for his actions. I’m just surprised hes managed to wing it for all these years. Nice guy but not a PL manager.

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  • mindshaft

    Sep 21, 2020 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #38

    The R comparison is over… it’s now 2 seasons since he was here ffs – I don’t give a flying f*** about Rafa – this is Bruce’s team, his ‘own’ players playing in the style he’s coached them

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  • mindshaft

    Sep 21, 2020 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #39

    I’m not even expecting a win against the mighty Morecambe at the moment and god help us against Bale inspired Spuds – it’s gone from the easiest start we’ve had in years to a nightmare start in one weekend

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  • GhostToon

    Sep 21, 2020 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #40

    Lets not be too hasty peeps with Brucies Galacticos, only judge him once we take on the almighty Morecambe on Tuesday pmsl.

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