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Newcastle Will Remain 15th After This Weekend But It’s Getting Too Close For Comfort



With just one game left to play today – Leicester vs Southampton – Newcastle’s situation in the standings has gotten a bit more tenuous. While some results went our way, both West Brom and Brighton have picked up massive wins.

West Brom came from 2-1 down to defeat Wolves at Molineux early on Saturday. It was the Baggies’ first win under new manager Sam Allardyce and has them move to within 8 points of Newcastle. Though Wolves remain just three points ahead of us after failing to win in their last 6 league matches.

Brighton picked up a rare three points after downing Leeds 1-0 at Elland Road. It was the Seagulls’ first win since they defeated Aston Villa at Villa Park in November. They are now on 17 points just 2 points and one position below us.

In other results, ten-men Fulham lost 1-0 to Chelsea at home. The defeat ends Fulham’s six-match unbeaten run. Though they only managed five draws in the league over that stretch. They remain 7 points behind Newcastle but look so much better than they did at the start of the season.

Wins really matter in this league and Newcastle are desperate for three points. We’ve not won since defeating West Brom in December, a streak of 8 games where we’ve picked up just two points and been knocked out of two cups.

We’ve remained 15th in the table for a few weeks now but that’s not going to last much longer if the lads don’t pick up three points soon.

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256 comments so far

  • Mund

    Jan 16, 2021 at 8:20 PM

    Comment #1

    Ben Jacobs
    @JacobsBen
    Replying to
    @PhilipPeppiatt
    I do expect both cases to be dropped. WTO appeal likely to be first withdrawn. Watch this space after Biden comes in. & I don’t think any formal talks will take place (if needed) until after club case concludes, but consortium have, as I understand it, indirectly contacted beIN.

    Black circleWhite circle Daniel Black circleWhite circle #WeWantSaudiFlag of Saudi Arabia
    @DanielEliassen1
    ·
    1h
    Wait what are we talking NUFC consortium talking with BeiN? Or have i miss understood
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    Ben Jacobs
    @JacobsBen
    Replying to
    @DanielEliassen1
    and
    @PhilipPeppiatt
    Indirectly, and informally… and even though AS, remember, said piracy was a non issue. But it also shows, as we have known for a while, they haven’t given up just yet.

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  • Mund

    Jan 16, 2021 at 8:21 PM

    Comment #2

    Interesting update by Jacobs

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 16, 2021 at 8:23 PM

    Comment #3

    geordietom,
    For your benefit on the last post.

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  • Not another deJong

    Jan 16, 2021 at 8:28 PM

    Comment #4

    In the Arbitration the lawyers representing the PL are going to drag up and sling as much muck as possible, in the hope that something sticks and makes the panel lean towards their side of the argument. As the Custodians of the game, as it were and incapable of operating outside the rules as they are the rulers. Until a decision is made PIF will not return to the topic of the club ownership, as the process of Arbitration maybe excessive and the circumstances of the club may well be completely different by then.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 16, 2021 at 8:29 PM

    Comment #5

    Munster,
    It’s obviously a matter of opinion, I think a lot of people would see getting a promoted team to tenth then getting more points, goals and less conceded with a very little net spend the season after as a great job. In fact the job he has done has been shown to be even more impressive given that his successor has had £100M pounds spent on the team and has us in free fall.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 16, 2021 at 8:33 PM

    Comment #6

    Munster,
    It’s not like you to leave a comment at the end of a thread a full five minutes after a bus has moved 😀

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  • toon22

    Jan 16, 2021 at 8:37 PM

    Comment #7

    Honestly

    Save yourself the bother and just stop reading what Munster posts
    He is obviously a wum

    😉

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  • Uncertain Toon/World

    Jan 16, 2021 at 8:47 PM

    Comment #8

    What’s Beijing Joe got to do with our takeover?

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  • Munster Mag

    Jan 16, 2021 at 8:48 PM

    Comment #9

    I wouldn’t call it great, nope. I’d call it very solid. He already had one of the best, if not the best championship team ever assembled ( and credit to him for buying well) , but he had a nice budget, and two players for every position, and only won the league because a lesser talented team took their foot off the pedal at the end, and villa got a flukey goal v Brighton, and we got a bonkers goal v Brighton too. Even as we fought for survival, the shockingly defensive cautious efforts v Sunderland and Villa cost us dearly. To end up 13th does not constitute a great job. It constitutes a good or solid job. In the real world anyway, maybe not in your world and world of some of your sympathisers, a Rafa lala paradise where not one single aspect of his tenure is open to criticism.

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  • Optimistic prime

    Jan 16, 2021 at 8:50 PM

    Comment #10

    Yawn

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  • Mund

    Jan 16, 2021 at 8:53 PM

    Comment #11

    Can one at least ignore the other then?

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  • Tackle from behind

    Jan 16, 2021 at 8:55 PM

    Comment #12

    Not seeing the point of this pi$$ing contest like.

    Rafa is long gone and whatever he did or left behind is as meaningless as comparing what Bruce is now doing with the same players.
    We might not have changed a lot, but other teams have, so it is a different landscape with a dozen other factors like covid, no fans, no pre season, takeover and on and on

    Micro analysing every detail and going over old posts to point score is sooo boring.

    None of you will ever be proven right and this will be your epitaph.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 16, 2021 at 8:56 PM

    Comment #13

    How about we just ignore you instead Mund?

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  • Munster Mag

    Jan 16, 2021 at 8:57 PM

    Comment #14

    Cavalry have been slow arriving OP. Fret not, I’m sure the 10 other usual suspects will get around to slagging me off soon, for daring to sing a slightly different tune. I wudnt mind, but it’s not as if I’m saying he was bad or something! Anyway, enjoy the cavalry support, I’m off to watch the box.

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  • Mund

    Jan 16, 2021 at 8:57 PM

    Comment #15

    Fine with me Jail I’ve been vetting for that for a while thanks 🙂

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  • Tackle from behind

    Jan 16, 2021 at 8:57 PM

    Comment #16

    Also, why not adhere to the suggestion that if you have a grievance with another poster, you take it to a different thread and bash away until you’re done.

    Comment # 354,678,346

    Aye, but Rafa had better socks, look at Brucie’s sock, they are plain grey.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 16, 2021 at 8:59 PM

    Comment #17

    TfB,
    We’re in free fall because the owner chased away the last manager and employed this ape in place of him. I think it’s quite relevant.

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  • Mund

    Jan 16, 2021 at 8:59 PM

    Comment #18

    Tackle I disagree rumour has it he takes more interest in what socks he puts on than he does selecting his team.

    So defo had better socks than Rafa.

    Please no hate

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  • Tackle from behind

    Jan 16, 2021 at 9:01 PM

    Comment #19

    Mund

    What a load of bolix

    Look back to September 2009 when you said you like Brucie’s socks
    Such a hypocrite

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  • Munster Mag

    Jan 16, 2021 at 9:01 PM

    Comment #20

    Jail at 13, how about you stop being such an obnoxious pedantic bully. Mund and myself are just as entitled to spout our opinions on whatever, as you are, with your sycophants.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 16, 2021 at 9:01 PM

    Comment #21

    TfB,
    Why not just suggest that before leaving your opinion on the matter?

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  • Tackle from behind

    Jan 16, 2021 at 9:03 PM

    Comment #22

    Jail

    I agree – that is where we are.

    But what does that have to do with Rafa – he’s gone, not coming back as things stand, so now we try to get rid of Bruce and hope to find better.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 16, 2021 at 9:03 PM

    Comment #23

    Munster,
    With all due respect Mund had already suggested ignoring each other, I didn’t think he’d mind the same advice.

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  • DrGloom

    Jan 16, 2021 at 9:04 PM

    Comment #24

    ffs – can we give it a rest, think we have a better squad now than in all of Rafas time and we’re playing the worst football I can remember ( actually we are barely playing football ), we have major problems now with Bruce the saviour, he’s had a season and a half and we’ve been getting worse and worse. Bruce has made 13 signings and yet the playing team is still the majority of the disde from two seasons ago – Bruce’s buy British has been a major failure with the non british buys just as bad – clubs in freefall and heading for the champo and yet people are still banging on about Rafa.
    Pathetic

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  • Mund

    Jan 16, 2021 at 9:05 PM

    Comment #25

    Tackle damn you and you’re super hero ability to pull up posts of Christmas gone…

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 16, 2021 at 9:05 PM

    Comment #26

    Well whatever the case surely Ashley must have realised how much money it’s cost him by hiring Bruce.

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  • Tackle from behind

    Jan 16, 2021 at 9:06 PM

    Comment #27

    Jail

    The opinion came to me before the thread suggestion – is all

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 16, 2021 at 9:07 PM

    Comment #28

    DrGloom,
    None of this would have happened if he hadn’t been chased away though and that’s what is so maddening about it.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 16, 2021 at 9:09 PM

    Comment #29

    I wish geordietom had posted his comment about me needing an education because I’d spelled Pompey incorrectly after the bus had moved 😀

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  • Optimistic prime

    Jan 16, 2021 at 9:15 PM

    Comment #30

    Munster

    Maybe there’s more than one or “cavalry” as you like to put it because you’re so wide of the mark you’re virtually commenting on a different sport.

    Bruce is and has used mostly players Rafa signed, so either Rafa did a great job, or Bruce is completely useless!

    Which is it?

    From one of the best defences to one of the worst.

    Come on, tell us how similar they play and got same points and we’re only moaning because we don’t like him.

    Your football nous is shown by your continued efforts to liken us to Leeds or Forest, other than them being football clubs their fate was nothing like ours is atm.

    The reason you point to “gangs” or “cavalry” is your arguments never hold water, instead of sticking to the debate you’d rather start a argument which you admit you enjoy!

    Stick to football, if you can!

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  • Tackle from behind

    Jan 16, 2021 at 9:16 PM

    Comment #31

    For me the main difference between the two (Rafa/Bruce) is discipline.

    It’s clear to see, Rafa had his way and Bruce just goes with the flow and that starts to show after a while, which is what we are witnessing now.

    Then when things fail and Bruce gets the blame, he rebels, because he knows it’s not his fault, the players are in charge.

    You can’t sack the players though, and why would you?
    To get in more players who do as they please???

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Jan 16, 2021 at 9:23 PM

    Comment #32

    I would agree with both Munster and Jail with regards to Rafa I actually think he was about 60/40 in terms of doing a superb job against quality of football!

    Some of the football was dire lets be honest there are games where he could have attacked more which left me frustrated BUT there were also lots of games where we pounded teams only to get done by a sucker punch! I can’t ever remember a game under Bruce where we got done out of points that we should have got?!

    Under Rafa I remember at least 5 Man Utd, Bournemouth, Brighton, Leeds (champo) and Spurs where we battered them chance after chance only to be undone by a snide goal or a wonder goal!

    What I do know is under him we were top 5 form when he left playing some excellent football and battered quite a few teams the only other team that season that had similar 2nd half of the season form was Wolves and Leicester who continued that to get into europe whereas we just stayed the same under Bruce last season…..

    A bit like Martinez at Everton the first season he was there he had the benefit of Moyes defence and it came apart the following season the same has happened to Bruce

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jan 16, 2021 at 9:23 PM

    Comment #33

    I see NUST are helping out getting laptops to kids who do not have them- for their distance learning.

    NUST are saying there are at least 55,000 homes in the North East which do not have a computer/laptop.
    That is a hell of a lot of kids who will not be able to do distance learning.

    A bit of a shock -the numbers involved.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 16, 2021 at 9:26 PM

    Comment #34

    TfB,
    See how hard it is to not make comparisons. Had someone we liked came in because Ashley’s ambition had persuaded him to join and done a good job, Rafa would be long forgotten. It is just the maddening circumstances that we could have been doing so much better with the money that has been spent if Ashley wasn’t he’ll bent on keeping us as a low level PL club.

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  • Munster Mag

    Jan 16, 2021 at 9:26 PM

    Comment #35

    OP I don’t know football? Don’t make me laugh son, I guarantee I’ve played more, coached more, and captained more that you ever have, or will.

    Rafa did a solid job, a good job. He didn’t do a ‘great’ job. That would require more I’m afraid.

    If you want to comment on my analysis of benirez work away. But just expect me to laugh when you claim I don’t know the game.

    And yes Bruce is doing a useless job.

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  • onmeedsun

    Jan 16, 2021 at 9:28 PM

    Comment #36

    After nearly every Match this season Bruce has come out and said that wasn’t good enough, work in progress, whatever, and that he is responsible and big enough to take the criticism.
    He seems to think that absolves him and means it goes away.
    Responsible for performances then to be truly accountable you lose your job, as these are not one offs and big money is at stake. Cliche after cliche.
    I accept we will never progress with Ashley but a good coach would be getting a better tune out of our squad and that’s the point.

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Jan 16, 2021 at 9:32 PM

    Comment #37

    Imagine we had got Bielsa or someone of that ilk after Rafa?

    No one would have cared one bit as the football would have been electric

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 16, 2021 at 9:35 PM

    Comment #39

    LCBP,
    Villa did not play good football last year, they stayed up by the skin of their teeth they spent a fortune in the summer and are now reaping the rewards

    “Newcastle have a net spend of £3.54m over the last three years having only broken a 14-year transfer record in January when they spent over £20m on Miguel Almiron”
    How can people expect a newly promoted team to have a sell to buy policy and spiteful not back the manager then expect quality football and Europe league.

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  • Tackle from behind

    Jan 16, 2021 at 9:37 PM

    Comment #40

    Jail

    Ashley has only 2 remits to his “manager”
    1…Keep us in the Premier League
    2… Don’t ask for any money

    Rafa had the ability to make his own money, improving players or selecting younger prospects for cheap. BUT, he asked for more – more for better players and more for himself and his coaching team.

    Bruce has no ability and asks for anyone who fancies another go.

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