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Report – Championship Club Win Race For Young Striker Bruce Wanted In Early



The Magpies have been on the trail of Wigan striker Kyle Joseph for months. It was back in early April that Newcastle’s interest in the young prospect was first revealed.

The 19-year-old is out of contract this summer and at the time, Newcastle were trying to convince him that his future was on Tyneside. We were even willing to shell out a little extra in compensation to seal the deal.

Newcastle were consistently said to be leading the race until last week, when it emerged that Swansea were in talks for the Scotland U21 international. Now it looks like the youngster will head to the Liberty Stadium next month after his contract expires.


Football Insider is reporting that Swansea have won the race for Jospeh and will pay £1m in compensation to Wigan. They have also reached an agreement on personal terms.

The size of the compensation fee may have played a role in Newcastle missing out on the striker. In April, it was reported Newcastle were offering £850k.

It also appears that Swansea will give Joseph first-team football this upcoming season while Newcastle had him pegged as one for the future. With the Academy being gutted last week, this news, if accurate, is a blow as the cupboard is not exactly brimming with attacking prospects.

Both Celtic and Rangers were also in for Joseph, who scored 5 goals in 14 League One appearances before a serious back injury sidelined him in late January. He was identified, along with Kristoffer Ajer, as a player to get in early this summer. Now it appears that we’ve missed out on the promising youngster.


183 comments so far

  • cleveleysbob

    Jun 10, 2021 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #41

    I must admit, I’ve gone from optimistic to cautiously hopeful, as after last Summer that’s as far as I dare invest in the process. I’m pretty well ignoring all the opinion/guessing/wishful thinking/click bait/rumour mongering that’s percolating and waiting for some “facts” to emerge from somewhere.

    Call me cynical, but “once bitten” etc 🙂

    There seems to be a lot of “there’s something going on in background” stuff going around, but not a scintilla of factual info to back up such meanderings.

    So I’ll stick to what I know. Tomorrow the CAT will have the info it needs from PL to decide if they (CAT) have jurisdiction or not over them. When we’ll get to hear outcome is unknown.
    Arbitration is next Month.

    That’s it folks, only known facts out there.

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  • Mund

    Jun 10, 2021 at 1:30 PM

    Comment #42

    To be clear and I’ve already said this.

    I don’t think we will hear anything from tomorrow but if none of you think it’s not a big day then I don’t know what to say.

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  • Aces-of-Eights

    Jun 10, 2021 at 1:32 PM

    Comment #43

    Just need to keep eye on cat website for updates on the case but I doubt there will be any for few weeks so just wait until August and just enjoy Euros until then

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jun 10, 2021 at 1:32 PM

    Comment #44

    Bombay Sapphire it is. £17 Amazon, arrives tomorrow. Big day tomorrow 😀

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  • Mund

    Jun 10, 2021 at 1:33 PM

    Comment #45

    Chris Armin
    @chris_armin
    ·
    28m
    An arbitration expert says that because the EPL left KSA off the countries added to the US piracy watch list that it raises the possibility of a climb down from the EPL. Their stance has softened and by doing this they’ve opened up a pathway to a brokered deal “if they want one”

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  • onmeedsun

    Jun 10, 2021 at 1:34 PM

    Comment #46

    Jail
    Gin Mare is good stuff, but serve with pink grapefruit.
    £36 so not the cheapest, but not the dearest either.
    Trying a £17 bottle of Hampstead gin from Lidl. I think it’s decent but missus says not a patch on Gin Mare.
    Emperors new clothes?

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  • G

    Jun 10, 2021 at 1:35 PM

    Comment #47

    My Mrs got some gin from Aldi recently, about 15 quid a bottle. Haysmiths Grapefruit and Blood Orange. Really is very nice, like summer in a bottle. I quite like the Raspberry Vodka and Mango Vodka they do too.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jun 10, 2021 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #48

    Mund,
    Who is Chris Armin though. He’s not a journalist or an arbitration expert, he’s just some random fan tweeting stuff.

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  • Mund

    Jun 10, 2021 at 1:49 PM

    Comment #49

    Jail

    Top lad and knows his stuff.

    It’s just a tweet like you put up at times nothing to shoot down, it’s just an opinion off a fan who does his background work.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jun 10, 2021 at 1:51 PM

    Comment #50

    onmeedsun,
    Cheers but the Bombay Sapphire is bought and arriving tomorrow. I only had a Gordon’s miniature and another one called London something, let’s see how I feel about Gin after I’ve done a bottle tomorrow night 😀

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  • Mund

    Jun 10, 2021 at 1:51 PM

    Comment #51

    Tbf Jail I’d believe him over any journalist

    They ain’t worth shit nowadays

    For me and with what we have been through this last 18 month it has shown me how much journalists 90% of the time are full of shit

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  • NUFC_Stevo

    Jun 10, 2021 at 1:55 PM

    Comment #52

    Anyone know the code for the euro fantasy league?

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  • cleveleysbob

    Jun 10, 2021 at 1:57 PM

    Comment #53

    Agree on that Mund, totally.

    Jail, is that a litre or a bottle? If it’s a litre I’m ordering one too, cracking price. 🙂

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  • lesh

    Jun 10, 2021 at 1:59 PM

    Comment #54

    The EPL position was that it determined that PIF was not an ultimate beneficial owner as it is controlled by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

    Whether the EPL has or hasn’t softened its position on piracy of beIN broadcasts won’t make a difference to that view.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:00 PM

    Comment #55

    Only 70 cl Bob

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:01 PM

    Comment #56

    Stevo
    9851NSWN01

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  • anxer

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:03 PM

    Comment #57

    Gin and tonic or bitter lemon used to be the only spirit I ever drank, but since lockdown started I have drunk enough rum to pickle a pirate.

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  • cleveleysbob

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:03 PM

    Comment #58

    OK, just looked it’s a bottle but still decent price. I’m buying a litre from Morrison’s for £22.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:03 PM

    Comment #59

    Mund,
    Who is he though?

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:06 PM

    Comment #60

    anxer,
    I might try the bitter lemon with it tomorrow.

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  • cleveleysbob

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #61

    Lesh, I think the “thought process” is that if piracy doesn’t matter, then the separation issue doesn’t matter.

    It was always the case that if the PL “proved” KSA were owners, then they’d fail the O&D test over piracy. So separation became an issue.

    If the piracy goes away, so does the separation issue.

    My take on it anyway, everyone is free to shoot as many holes as you like into it, I promise it won’t offend me so long as you don’t bring my Mother into it. 😆

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  • Romford mag

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:09 PM

    Comment #62

    Bob

    😆

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  • Optimistic prime

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:12 PM

    Comment #63

    Bob

    Im on the same boat as you.

    Who’s yacht is this anyway?

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  • cleveleysbob

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:13 PM

    Comment #64

    Urgh, bitter lemon, too tart for my taste. I’ll stick with my elderflower tonic.

    Perfect drink – 3-4 large chunks of ice, a generous double of Gin poured over and topped up with a can of elderflower tonic. A slice/twist or wedge of lime is optional, and better than lemon.

    Voila! 🙂

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  • Mund

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:14 PM

    Comment #65

    Have a gander Jail

    https://mobile.twitter.com/chris_armin

    Like I said tho just a fan

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  • cleveleysbob

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:15 PM

    Comment #66

    WL’s, he’s the only one with money 😉

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  • lesh

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:19 PM

    Comment #67

    cleveleysbob

    I hear what you’re saying about the piracy issue but thinking about it, PIF submitted that it was not an arm of the KSA when the EPL determined it was.

    KSA had been accused of facilitating beIN piracy and by agreeing with the EPL’s then position, KSA would’ve been deemed as an unsuitable owner or director of NUFC.

    With that in mind, if the piracy issue’s gone away, were KSA to agree that it were to be a part owner and director of NUFC, then by changing its position, it’d be admitting that it was involved in the piracy issue.

    I can’t see the ownership position changing – PIF won’t suddenly agree it’s part of KSA.

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  • cleveleysbob

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:20 PM

    Comment #68

    Ooh, a light bulb moment.

    All the “going on in the background” stuff is happening, but it’s all in lawyers chambers while they take the p*** and rake in millions in fees.

    All makes sense now 😆

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  • Mund

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:20 PM

    Comment #69

    Lesh

    They are separate entities mate they wouldn’t agree to any such things IMO

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  • Mund

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:22 PM

    Comment #70

    Bobs

    Spot on and my word I can only imagine what type of legal costs this amounts to.

    A while back it was mentioned that Ashley had already spent 5M on legal costs and still rising so god knows what the final amount would be.

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  • cleveleysbob

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:24 PM

    Comment #71

    Lesh, me old cock sparrow, if the PL can change their position on piracy, why can’t the PIF/KSA change theirs on separation. It would be cheaper all round to come to an agreed accommodation over the issue rather than carry on fighting it in arbitration etc.

    Just saying. I’m a simplistic person with simple views on what people turn into complex matters to the greater benefit of the legal profession. 😉

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  • lesh

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:26 PM

    Comment #72

    Jail

    A word of advice, don’t be put off gin if Bombay Sapphire’s not to your taste. There are loads more out there.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:26 PM

    Comment #73

    Mund,
    I did have a gander and he’s just a random fan so how is anything he says relevant to what’s happening. No different to captain amerimag saying takeover is happening #cans

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  • Adamn_92

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:27 PM

    Comment #74

    I still think proving they are separate is going to be very difficult. MBS is the active chairman of PIF, does PIF public speeches, in January outlined PIF’s 2030 vision and links I put up weeks ago indicate that he uses PIF to make purchases. So even though they may have submitted lots of evidence to prove they are separate, I still think it’s going to be a very difficult hurdle. I think they’ll overcome it eventually as if they have hard evidence to prove separation, then legally they are separate, even if deep down they aren’t really.

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  • Davas28

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:27 PM

    Comment #75

    Mund, other than tomorrow being the deadline for the EPL to input their case against jurisdiction, is there something else that you’ve maybe heard that makes tomorrow such a big day?

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  • Adamn_92

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:28 PM

    Comment #76

    https://www.swp-berlin.org/10.18449/2019RP08/

    The analysis shows, however, that the expansion of the PIF is primarily motivated by power politics. The SWF gives Crown Prince Muhammad Bin Salman direct access to the state’s substantial financial resources. He can use these resources according to his preferences and thus purchase the loyalty of politically important factions within the elite. In addition, Bin Salman could use the PIF to “buy” international support for his political goals. Through the SWF, the economic transformation in Saudi Arabia is closely linked to the consolidation of the crown prince’s rule.

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  • cleveleysbob

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:31 PM

    Comment #77

    PL O&D test 101.

    KSA cannot pass because of their historic piracy of BeIN output.

    Ergo, PIF and KSA must be proved to be separate.

    PL, drop accusations of piracy due to KSA’s tightening and enforcement of new laws against online abuse of intellectual property.

    Ergo, PIF and KSA need not prove separation as KSA will pass test anyway.

    Like I said, seems simple to me.

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  • lesh

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:33 PM

    Comment #78

    Cleveleysbob

    If the PL can change their position and policy on piracy, that’s its prerogative.

    Expecting KSA to effectively admit it was complicit in it gives Qatar a massive victory in its conflict with KSA. You know as well as I that pride, face is a big thing in the Gulf area.

    Changing subject, Amazon has a litre of Tanqeray dry (43.5%) for £2O.

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  • bettyswallocks

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:33 PM

    Comment #79

    I can strongly recommend ‘ Konyage ‘ a local liquor from Tanzania which is similar to Vodka but with a higher alcohol content.
    Ideal to slip into juice based cocktails or Punch unbeknown to guests and guaranteed to get the party started.
    Some of the chaps from the colonial club came round for a cocktail party and staggered home totally rat arsed , mortal.

    Not recommended for Lesh as he already has too much blood in his alcohol.

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  • Mund

    Jun 10, 2021 at 2:35 PM

    Comment #80

    Howe now being reported off to Everton

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