Sky Sports is backing claims that Newcastle have launched a second bid for Leicester City’s James Maddison. They are reporting the bid is for £50m, which includes add-ons. That is along the lines of what Luke Edwards broke earlier when he reported a structured bid exceeding £45m had been submitted.
Newcastle have gone in with an improved offer for Leicester’s James Maddison, according to colleague @skysports_sheth.
We’re told their second bid is £50m, including add-ons.
Newcastle had £40m offer rejected at the weekend, Leicester value Maddison at £60m #NUFC— Keith Downie (@SkySports_Keith) August 1, 2022
This offer is just £10m off of Leicester’s valuation and would eclipse Newcastle’s record transfer, believed to be around £40m for Joelinton. There are no reports yet of Leicester’s response to the bid.
Newcastle have gone all in on Maddison as he is now the priority target. Depending on how the deal is structured, there could be little left in the budget for a second attacker if Leicester do accept this offer.
This could signal that the pursuit of Maxwel Cornet has been put on the back burner pending the outcome of this latest bid. If Newcastle can land Maddison, focus would most likely shift to the loan market with Timo Werner in our sights.
There is news coming from Fabrizio Romano on Werner. He is reporting that RB Leipzig are making a significant push to bring the 26-year-old back to the Red Bull Arena. He also believes Newcastle have yet to hold talks.
Leipzig are now pushing more than Juventus for Timo Werner, after the meeting with Chelsea on Sunday – still waiting to see if there’s room for a swap deal. ???? #RBLeipzig
He’s the main target for RB Leipzig, leading the race over Juventus. No direct talks yet with Newcastle. https://t.co/YER55Jpx5c
— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) August 1, 2022
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255 comments so far
The Ledge
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:00 PM
Comment #41Ye Dazzler what would Nagelsmann, Howe, Allegri etc know man? Lol
dazzler
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:00 PM
Comment #42SirBobbyTheGreat = Kets who is banned.
Harrison’s do your thing and get him gone double lively.
The Ledge
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:02 PM
Comment #43Rom…i would go along with that.
Let Dubs go as a sweetener keep Darlow as backup .
dazzler
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:02 PM
Comment #44Ruddy,
So in the PL alone he has a better goal contribution per game than every single current toon player.
Aye, he’s better. You’ve literally just proven my point using stats
Ruddy Marveaux-lous
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:05 PM
Comment #45Dazzler
Wilson has scored 20 goals and has 6 assists in 44 Premier League games which is a goal/assist in every 1.69 games so you’re sorely mistaken on that one bud.
Ruddy Marveaux-lous
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:09 PM
Comment #46And that is in piss poor Newcastle United sides who were 18th in the league last season for average possession (Chelsea were 3rd) and 16th in the league for xG (Chelsea were 3rd)
If you placed Werner into the same Newcastle United which both had considerably less of the ball and created considerably fewer chances, Werner’s PL goal/assist record would be even worse than his already pretty average stats.
clinath@ed
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:09 PM
Comment #47I’ll have a go at the accountancy jungle.
you buy a player for £50m on a 5 year contract, if you pay all up front, as FFP looks at a rolling 3 years (?) then all £50m will go in that.
However, if you spread it out at say, £10m per year over 5 years, then in the rolling 3 year window only £30m will show at a time.
Hope that makes sense??
SirBobbytheGreat
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:11 PM
Comment #48Don’t worry, I’m not Kets. Not surprised he’s been banned.
Nicky the ball tosser
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:11 PM
Comment #49Maddison at 50 mill, at 25, with two years left on his deal, and seemingly wanting the move, understandably, as we are primed to overtake Leicester and keep going, and with the guys at the top we now have in place to run the club, you sense this is probably gonna happen, and once it does Werner or similar will too, and then we have genuine liftoff. We are then an almost unrecognisable club, but this is exactly why PIF bought us, and so in many ways quite predictable, but it still seems incredible, and you’d have to say, very measured, which bodes so well for us.
SirBobbytheGreat
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:16 PM
Comment #50Yeah, totally agree. Leicester have gone backwards since they sold Maguire. Perez has struggled. Vardy isn’t getting any younger. We’ll overtake Leicester this season if we sign the players that we’re linked with.
Cornet is probably better than Saint-Maximin. ASM will have to play on the right to accommodate Maxwel.
Ruddy Marveaux-lous
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:17 PM
Comment #51Clinath
Actually works out differently than that from an FFP perspective. You could pay for a £50m player on a 5 year contract upfront but for FFP purposes the cost of that transfer still only amounts to £10m p.a due to player amortisation.
Spreading the cost of a transfer over a number of years seems to be more of a cash flow management issue rather than an FFP issue.
onmeedsun
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:18 PM
Comment #52Mund/Toonces
Accounting is a boring subject so I hate to draw this out, but I think it’s important that blog readers know the facts. Spreading payments just ease cashflow. If we buy Maddison for £50m on a 5 year contract then the annual hit to the profit and loss is £10m plus his annual wages. Even if the whole £50m is paid out upfront. Same if all paid in year 5. The transfer fee is amortised over the 5 year contract period. The £50m fee is recognised in the accounts day 1 as it’s a financial liability that has to be paid. Which is why I don’t understand why we don’t offer more upfront cash with clubs we know are cash strapped, as it could seal the deal and even get us a discount on the fee. I’d back that opinion up with my life.
The Ledge
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:18 PM
Comment #53Juventus are interested in Lyon midfielder Lucas Paqueta and are prepared to offer €20m plus French midfielder Adrien Rabiot to complete the deal. (Calciomercato) https://t.co/XKTZgfYGBR
The Last Jedi
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:19 PM
Comment #54“I wouldnt put us 7-10th but outside top 8” which is like 9-10th. Looks like Ruddy been smoking too much Mackem Lady ‘crack’
Ashingtoon62
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:20 PM
Comment #55Surely Kets will run out of IP addy’s eventually.. 😀
Ruddy Marveaux-lous
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:20 PM
Comment #56Jedi
You ok buddy?
onmeedsun
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:23 PM
Comment #57Ruddy
Time for you and me to set up a book keeping school for the blog. I’m sure the queue will be round the block! Players are assets on the balance sheet and their transfer fees are amortised over the term of their contract. The profit and loss takes all the revenue for the year and deducts annual wages and transfer fee amortisation, and takes into account any profits/losses on player sales.
Simples!
onmeedsun
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:24 PM
Comment #58And that’s me done on the matter. I’m retired and if bores the arse off me! But important we understand this stuff as it matters.
Ruddy Marveaux-lous
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:26 PM
Comment #59Onmeedsun
When it comes to anything more detailed than that I defer to your professional knowledge!
I had written an article on FFP for True Faith not that long ago so I did a good bit of research on amortisation and the impact of transfers/wages on the balance sheet. You’re still the resident blog accounting expert my good man!
Nicky the ball tosser
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:28 PM
Comment #60We get Maddison then it’ll be Jonjo who drops down the pecking order I reckon. Bruno, Joel and Maddison to start, with Willock and Longstaff’s legs in support. I think Jonjo only gets minutes if Maddison is injured, suspended, or rested, although that still makes him an important part of the squad. Need a couple of players like Maddison and Shelvey in a top 8 squad, but Maddison will be the main man, and I don’t see the pair playing too often together.
The Ledge
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:28 PM
Comment #61“Leicester have shown an interest in NUFC goalkeeper Martin Dubravka
but understand he is not yet part of the package for James Maddison. That could change, of course.”
[Via Craig Hope] #N
Adamn_92
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:28 PM
Comment #62Leicester interested in Dubravka apparently. Makes sense with Schmeichel going to Nice. Surely if they owe us money still for Perez (if true), they need money, Maddison is keen (if true) and they’re keen on Dubravka (if true)….then a deal can be done?
cockneymafiaout
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:30 PM
Comment #63Martoon
My predictions please mate;
Final League Position – 7th
Final no. of points – 55
Goals Scored (Premiership) – 50
League Cup round – semis
FA Cup round – round 5
Player of the Season – Bruno Guimares
Top goal scorer – Callum Wilson
No. of goals scored by TGS – 13
The Ledge
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:30 PM
Comment #64Hopefully Adam .
clinath@ed
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:30 PM
Comment #65Ruddy
I knew I should have kept out of it ;-(
cockneymafiaout
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:30 PM
Comment #66Martoon
Sorry goals was meant to be 60
Ruddy Marveaux-lous
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:34 PM
Comment #67Clinath
I can see the logic in your thinking mind you so it wasn’t a bad stab at it, but as onmeedsun says, it’s important and going to form part of the decision making at the club so it’s important we understand how it works.
Nicky the ball tosser
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:36 PM
Comment #68Wouldn’t want to lose Dubravka at all. Think Pope and Dubravka are a great brace of keepers for us, providing excellent quality, depth and competition in such a key position, and he is also such an impressive person, so let’s hope we can keep him out of it.
Ruddy Marveaux-lous
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:36 PM
Comment #69Adam
As you say, if all of those moving parts come together then surely a deal could be done. Dubs is good enough to play PL football and would be guaranteed to start as their Number 1, we want one of their players, they need a GK sharpish so let’s hope we can get this one sorted.
Ruddy Marveaux-lous
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:38 PM
Comment #70Nicky
Pope is pretty nailed on to be our starting GK. People focus on Dubs being better with the ball at his feet but that isn’t Howe’s priority. Howe’s priority will be on which GK is better at identifying danger and playing as a sweeper-keeper as we look to play a much higher line this season. The answer to that one is unquestionably Pope is the better sweeper-keeper and as such will be our starter.
I’d love to keep Dubs as backup but he is almost too good to play backup and if he wants to leave to play first-team football, or can help as leverage for us to bring in a truly top-tier player in Maddison then it’s a no-brainer for me.
Tinos Vino
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:42 PM
Comment #71onmeedson. I think i have figured out where Mund is getting confused as i 100% agree with you. The only circumstances it would help effect FFP is cash flow wise.
If they pay in instalments they dont have to borrow the money from the owners to pay upfront. There are limits to how much they can borrow from the owners.
as a boring example they buy £300m worth of players all with 5 year contract so £60m a year in FFP rules and against you P&L. if they have to pay all that upfront they have to borrow from a third party( which they just have) or the owners. However the owners are not now allowed to just lend the club limitless cash or FFP gets involved.
You all asleep yet. That is the only circumstance that i can see where “instalment” payments “may” help.
wish we would just buy someone LoL
Adamn_92
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:43 PM
Comment #72Dubs has been a superb keeper for us right from day 1. The odd mistake here and there but that’s the life of a goalkeeper. Can’t fault him. However, you’d have to think Pope is going to be our number 1 which means Dubs would be back up. I think it’s almost nicer to let Dubs go to Leicester if they do want him. He’s good enough to be a number 1 for a good prem team and so if he was involved in the deal, seems like every party wins.
Darlow is a decent back up and you never know we may even then look to a young keeper to raise through the ranks.
Adamn_92
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:45 PM
Comment #73If everything we’re hearing is to be believed, then it does seem like things are lining up for this deal to get done. Here’s hoping anyway!
It’s an exciting prospect as he would absolutely transform our attack.
The Last Jedi
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:48 PM
Comment #74Think Juve are after Milenkovic Savic so not sure if they can get Paqueta aswell
Mund
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:48 PM
Comment #75So we could use Dubs and what they owe us for Perez…? Hmmm could end up being a really good deal.
Nicky the ball tosser
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:48 PM
Comment #76Ruddy, I tend to see both as of a similar quality, and so not convinced Pope will be a clear number one. Dubravka is a great shot stopper, and certainly better with the ball at his feet, and also tactically astute, which is important for a side that wants to play it out from the back. I don’t feel as though the club would want to move him out, I think they would really like the competition and depth you get from having two good keepers, but I understand if needs must, to secure a formidable player like Maddison, it might well happen.
Ruddy Marveaux-lous
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:49 PM
Comment #77Adam
While I’ve been a little bit nego about Cornet and Werner I would be absolutely and utterly delighted with the signing of Maddison. I’d still like us to bolster the attacking ranks but as you say Maddison would absolutely transform our attack. He gets into great little pockets between the lines, has a canny killer pass and is a goal threat from outside of the box as well as from set pieces. He’s also on the fringes of the England squad in a World Cup year so will be chomping at the bit to show what he can do. I really do hope we bring him in.
Elmanio
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:52 PM
Comment #78Martoon
5th
66
62
7 (Winner)
5
Almiron
Wilson
19
Ruddy Marveaux-lous
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:54 PM
Comment #79Nicky
Similar in the sense that they are both top-half PL quality keepers but very different in terms of their strengths. While Dubs is a very good shot-stopper, Pope is an absolutely elite shot-stopper, among the very best in the league. Dubs is better with the ball at his feet, but Pope is quicker off his line. I can’t say much about either of them playing out from the back as neither have played for teams in the PL that did too much of that. Dubs is more error prone than Pope as well, but as has been said, that is the life of a GK.
For me it’s Pope that fits into the high defensive line system we want to play better than Dubs so he starts over him for me but both are PL quality and great depth in that position.
The Last Jedi
Aug 1, 2022 at 8:55 PM
Comment #80Belotti and Wijnaldum to Roma