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Budding Star Could Be On The Agenda After Approach Last Month



Last month, The Mail reported Newcastle had made an initial approach for Rennes winger Kamaldeen Sulemana, who goes by Kamaldeen. The 20-year-old joined Rennes last summer from Nordsjælland and became the record signing for a player from the Danish Superliga.

Get French Football News has cited a report from L’Equipe that Newcastle are now pondering making their move for the electric Ghana international (11 caps). Kamaldeen was limited last season after breaking a vertebrae in his back ultimately ending his campaign in February. He managed 5 goals and 2 assists in 27 appearances in all competitions.

If Newcastle rate Kamaldeen highly, this could be the summer to make their move. A full season from the Ghanaian could see him reach superstar status. As a teenager in Denmark, he was unplayable at times scoring 14 goals with 8 assists in just 43 appearances.

It’s unclear how much he would cost this summer. Rennes will want to keep hold of their budding star as they invested a significant fee to bring him in. He still has four years remaining on his contract.

His injury puts his value in flux as he has yet to have a full season in one of Europe’s top leagues. Though he appears poised for a breakout campaign this year and doesn’t turn 21 until February.

Kamaldeen Sulemana could be one to watch as the window progresses. Rennes may drive a hard bargain but if Newcastle put in a reasonable offer, they may not be able to stand in the winger’s way.

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112 comments so far

  • IrishRob

    Aug 4, 2022 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #41

    Dazzler hand on heart I can’t help but feel that would would be factored in or would be recognised as going to be factored in when the books are done. So it seems to me that knowing that money was earmarked already or I’d going yo be earmarked down the line, takes away its advantage in the deal and ultimately means we are essentially paying 8M extra either way.

    I mean it would be absolutely bonkers to assume they and their accountants wouldn’t have included that money into their accounts or plan ahead and included it into their account when they get it.

    It just can’t be free money man, if I’m wrong then I’m wrong, but I’d like the blogs official accountant to weigh in on it, when he gets a chance.

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  • coming home

    Aug 4, 2022 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #42

    Good advice from The Pug but some can go round with a Driver and a 7 iron and putter

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  • dazzler

    Aug 4, 2022 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #43

    TDS,

    It does make it more likely.

    If they want £60m, and we say we’ll give you £52m and write off what you owe for Perez the transaction is still worth £60m to Leicester.

    It still allows them to buy players. Let’s say we pay in instalments, they may need to borrow against assets, and it’s better to have £52m in liquid assets (debtors) with no liabilities as it’s relatively low risk

    Whether we give them cash upfront or not it will still allow them to invest in their own playing squad, by also paying in instalments or by borrowing against the newly acquired £52m debtor on their balance sheet.

    The only thing that will matter is their valuation of the player they are selling until someone comes in with a more favourable structure for payment.

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  • Ronway

    Aug 4, 2022 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #44

    Magicmac54

    Here you go Magic; I like the look of yours but this golf “adventure” takes some beating!

    http://www.overthetopgolf.co.nz/

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  • dazzler

    Aug 4, 2022 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #45

    Rob,

    It is factored in, on the balance sheet. It’s there as amounts owed, either as a debtor or contingent asset. It’s not free money, as it’s owed by Leicester as part of their agreement to purchase Perez. They owe us that money as part of a contract, and on completion of certain milestones.

    It’s really no different to any other kind of debtor. They have an obligation to pay and it’s on the debtor list as amounts owed to NUFC. It’s a creditor on their books for the same reason.

    All we’d essentially be doing is saying “you owe us £Xm in the next 12 months, so instead of £60m we agree to pay you the £60m less what you already owe us, and we agree to write that balance off”

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  • IrishRob

    Aug 4, 2022 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #46

    So you haven’t found direct evidence to show that players who are paid in installments are only added to the accounts in installments, rather than being factored in as one payment.

    What you’re suggesting would also hugely hurt the selling club because it would then mean they could only use partial payment of players towards their own budgets year on year.

    Meaning if a club sold a player for 50M in 5 installments of 10M over 5 years they would then only have the capacity to spend 10M of that money on a replacement player themselves, unless they wanted to take the chance that the club they would buy a player from as a replacement would also accept payment in installments. Which I don’t need to tell you is a gamble so huge no club would take.

    I have no problem accepting I might be wrong because I’m no expert but common sense just gives me that feeling I’m probably not. Fair to say we know where both of us stand on it, but we’re both not experts on it so i think we will leave it at that, and just see what happens mate. Either way I’m fairly sure we will not find out if its real or not if the deal does actually get done.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Aug 4, 2022 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #47

    Dazzler – in your example, it’s still costing us £60m and if they could sell Maddison for £60m to someone else, they could then wait to pay us the £8m (or whatever it is – keeping it simple). They could also sell Tielemans for say £30m, which may be enough for them, and wait until the last day to pay us the outstanding amount for Perez.

    Either way, I’m not sure I see the advantage to them. They either have the debt on the accounts, they pay us, or they forego transfer fees from us.

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  • Sir Pugalot, the Dutch Bulldog

    Aug 4, 2022 at 12:16 PM

    Comment #48

    Coming home, the 3 club challenge!

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  • Mund

    Aug 4, 2022 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #49

    Strange one for a club who supposedly needs to sell before they can buy…

    Fabrizio Romano

    @FabrizioRomano
    Chelsea have submitted £60m proposal for Wesley Fofana, confirmed as advanced by
    @lequipe
    . Bid has been turned down by Leicester as they insist on not-for-sale stance #CFC

    Been told Chelsea are preparing another approach, they want to push for Fofana and he wants the move.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Aug 4, 2022 at 12:20 PM

    Comment #50

    If I was playing the 3 club challenge, I wouldn’t have a driver in my bag and I’d want something more lofted than a 7i.

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  • Munster Mag

    Aug 4, 2022 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #51

    If we are stuck for cash or unwilling to spend 60 mill on Maddison, wud Tielemans not be a good choice, for less bucks?

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  • CACHG

    Aug 4, 2022 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #52

    Thanks Martoon

    Final League Position = 6th
    Final no. of points = 60
    Goals Scored (Premiership) = 62
    League Cup round = winner
    FA Cup round = SF
    Player of the Season = Gummy
    Top goal scorer = Wilson
    No. of goals scored by TGS = 20

    CAC

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  • coming home

    Aug 4, 2022 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #54

    Stuck for cash 😆

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Aug 4, 2022 at 12:28 PM

    Comment #55

    Munster – I can only imagine that either Tielemans doesn’t want to join us or Eddie specifically wants Maddison for that role. They’re both quality players but obviously offer something different to the team. It’s also possible that Tielemans will be asking for a massive wage as he can leave for free in 12 months.

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  • Mag52

    Aug 4, 2022 at 12:31 PM

    Comment #56

    Martoon.

    My forecast :
    Final league position : 8th.
    Final number of points : 54.
    Goals scored (Prem.) : 60.
    League Cup round : 1/4 finals.
    F.A. Cup round : 1/4 finals.
    Player of season : Almiron.
    Top goal scorer : Wilson.
    No. of goals scored by TGS : 12.

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  • magicmac54

    Aug 4, 2022 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #57

    ToonDarnSarf

    When i go over ill be going over on a friday and returning home on Sunday, i like to mingle with the fans in Newcastle and having a few pints and having a bit of craic and experiencing the build up to the match so for that reason i wouldn`t really be interested in hulking a set of golf clubs with me mate to be honest, but thanks for asking mate.

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  • Munster Mag

    Aug 4, 2022 at 12:36 PM

    Comment #58

    CH, not quite stuck! But seemingly unwilling to pay a lot up front etc

    As for rushing other teams, if man city said that years ago we’d have called them arrogant. And they still haven’t won the CL.

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  • Munster Mag

    Aug 4, 2022 at 12:37 PM

    Comment #59

    *crushing not rushing

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  • Novocastrian66

    Aug 4, 2022 at 12:39 PM

    Comment #60

    I see Tielemans as having the same role as Bruno in the team. It would be great in terms of the squad to have both players challenging for the same position. I cannot see either player being happy to play second fiddle to the other at the moment.
    Once the club grows and we’re challenging for multiple trophies the position will change however we aren’t there yet.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Aug 4, 2022 at 12:43 PM

    Comment #61

    Magic – no problem. Hope to join you on the golf course one day though!

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  • magicmac54

    Aug 4, 2022 at 12:43 PM

    Comment #62

    Sir Peter the Pug

    Peter to be perfectly honest i`m just a very average standard golfer, i would not be up to your standard as i know you played of a very low handicap previously, i just play to my own strengths, but i can hit the 3 wood quite well of both the tee and of the fairway, so it`s a simple case of stick to what you know works best, nothing very scientific 😀 😀

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  • dazzler

    Aug 4, 2022 at 12:49 PM

    Comment #63

    Rob,

    See my last reply to TDS for how they can work it but put simply:

    1) They have a debtor of £Xm which can be used to borrow against allowing them to invest in their squad. (relatively low risk given the TV money etc that pumps into revenue each year)

    2) They can structure deals so that the timing of their payments are in line with the timing of ours. The fact that they have this debtor on their books makes structuring deals low risk as the third club knows this money is highly likely to be paid.

    Either way they don’t hurt the selling club.

    Think of it in real terms, if we pay in instalments it really doesn’t matter how it’s accounted for on the balance sheet, they still don’t have the physical cash in the bank. So whether they recognise it as one lump or not is irrelevant. They still can’t sell Maddison for £60m and go and pay £60m for a replacement as the money hasn’t been transferred yet and won’t be for some time.

    What they can do is point to the debtor on their accounts and say to the bank “we want you to loan us £60m and use that low risk, liquid asset as security”, the bank is likely to say yes.

    Likewise, they can structure any purchase of a player in a similar way.

    If it was a hinderance then all transfers would be upfront in cash, with no phased payments at all.

    On a balance sheet it doesn’t matter if the money is in hand or not, debtors and cash and cash equivalents sit right beside each other as current assets. So from a borrowing standpoint it’s exactly the same thing.

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  • Dubai Micky

    Aug 4, 2022 at 12:50 PM

    Comment #64

    Jizz Hornkamp is heading to Nottingham Forest, imagine the headlines….

    “Jizz gives Forest the happy ending they were searching for”

    “Forest come from behind with a fine Jizz finish”

    Any others?

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  • magicmac54

    Aug 4, 2022 at 12:52 PM

    Comment #65

    Ronway@44

    Ron that definitely is a spectacular golf course with breathtaking views, no doubt i would be well out of my depth on that golf course, i`m only at vauxhall conference standard Ron 😀 😀

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  • Romford mag

    Aug 4, 2022 at 1:08 PM

    Comment #66

    Jizz shoots from outside the box and hits the post

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  • Vask

    Aug 4, 2022 at 1:09 PM

    Comment #67

    Dubai Mucky

    “Jizz running down the left wing. Jizz comes up against the right back. Jizz past the defender and the shot of jizz trickles under the goal keepers outstretched left hand.”

    Good enough?

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  • Mund

    Aug 4, 2022 at 1:10 PM

    Comment #68

    Those terrible Saudis eh… 🙄

    Michael Benson

    @MichaelBensonn
    ·
    58m
    Oleksandr Usyk is making the Anthony Joshua rematch free to watch for all in Ukraine, his promoter Alex Krassyuk has told me. Usyk tried to buy the TV rights to do this, so the Saudis gifted them to him. It will be free on Ukrainian state TV, Megogo streaming and Usyk’s YouTube.

    ———

    There won’t be a good word said about them doing this tho

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  • kilcline

    Aug 4, 2022 at 1:11 PM

    Comment #69

    I think our business is done until the last week of the window now, can’t see much movement over the next few weeks. Hopefully more players out to the championship/league 1

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  • Macas

    Aug 4, 2022 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #70

    Is this a football blog or a porn site? Women and children read the blog, do you really think they should be reading such rubbish?

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  • ITUNDERASHELL

    Aug 4, 2022 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #71

    Dubai Micky

    Any thoughts on the murky world of financial accounting in relation to the alledged Maddison no/yes maybe deal?

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  • SirBobbytheGreat

    Aug 4, 2022 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #72

    Madness not paying the £17.5m release clause for Cornet. Our club is turning into a joke. New ownership, yet we’re going backwards. What a terrible summer window. Forest will finish above us this season.

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  • Mund

    Aug 4, 2022 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #73

    Going backwards…?

    😆 😆 😆

    I’ve heard it all now!

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  • Blaydon-Toon

    Aug 4, 2022 at 1:30 PM

    Comment #74

    Final league position..8th
    Number of points..57
    Goals scored..59
    League cup..semi
    FA cup..winners
    Player of the season..Bruno
    Top goal scorer..Wilson with 17

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  • Davas

    Aug 4, 2022 at 1:32 PM

    Comment #75

    Pleased to see the offside rule has been tightened so that players aren’t played onside by a defender just clipping the ball or the ball brushing off him.

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  • Blaydon-Toon

    Aug 4, 2022 at 1:34 PM

    Comment #76

    Thanks Martoon

    Final league position..8th
    Number of points..57
    Goals scored..59
    League cup..semi
    FA cup..winners
    Player of the season..Bruno
    Top goal scorer..Wilson with 17

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  • mearlam

    Aug 4, 2022 at 1:40 PM

    Comment #77

    I don’t want to be a downer about the upcoming season but I don’t see us finishing much different than we did the last season. Okay, it will be nice not to be bottom for half of the season but i find it hard to get excited about another season of struggling to score.

    Wood made no difference to our creativity, as expected and we have not signed anybody who is going to improve the goal scoring issues. Wilson will be fit for 10-20 games as usual and get us 10 goals but that is exactly what happened last year.

    Goals win games and we create so little we are never going to score many with this team. I saw some person on here say that Miggy was going to be top goalscorer with 15 goals this season. I wish I was that deluded, then I couldn’t wait for the season to start.

    Our defense is immeasurably better and for that we don’t conceded a goal every time somebody attacks us..which is great. But our attack is basically the same as it has been for the past few years…bad.

    ASM – too busy trying to score wonder goals, guy is an idiot who cannot learn
    Wilson – scores good goals, hardly ever gets easy chances created for him
    Wood – busy helping out, he is a defensive attacker
    Fraser – runs a lot, does little
    Miggy – runs a lot, does little
    Shelvey – plays around the centre circle, too afraid to go forward as he would have to run back
    Murphy – loses the ball all of the time, doesn’t cross when he gets the chance.

    All these guys are solid but they wouldn’t get in a top 10 side other than Wilson when fit. I don’t believe anybody would play ASM for long even if they bought him.

    Long story short, if we don’t buy attacking players we are not going to score. We are not going to get the same results as the end of last season when half the teams had their flip flops on.

    I want to be excited about watching newcastle, that means creativity and goals.

    Hopefully they can buy a few players but their transfer dealing so far have been poor imo. They bought a keeper who was relegated, somebody we had already and some guy they tapped up in Jan. All good signing no doubt, but we haven’t signed anybody who is going to help our weakest area.

    Second half of the season our defense was generally great, our attack was still mostly non-existent. So a GK, a RB and a CF… nice one.

    I am praying this is a premature moan and all will be sorted in the next couple of weeks.. I am starting to doubt it though.

    Thoughts?

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  • Romford mag

    Aug 4, 2022 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #78

    4 weeks left of the window and no doubt they are working hard behind the scenes trying to bring the right player’s in 🙂

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  • Romford mag

    Aug 4, 2022 at 1:49 PM

    Comment #79

    And get players off the books

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  • mearlam

    Aug 4, 2022 at 1:51 PM

    Comment #80

    I meant GK, a RB and a CB of course.

    I didn’t mention anything about FFP or financials in my post I realise. I think this blog is an accountancy website these days.

    I have no idea why you are all concerned so much with the money side of things. I couldn’t care less how much things cost or what rules we have to stick to.

    It it hampers us buying players, then stop bidding for ones we can’t afford.

    Ultimately, nobody has a clue about the financials so let them deal with that side of things and we talk about football yeah?

    It is hard work skipping so many posts, I generally just look for `FFP` and `%` signs and move on!

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