Newcastle were linked with Brazilian wonderkid Andrey Santos a few days ago. Since the initial link, reports from Brazil picked up pace with claims on Wednesday that Newcastle were preparing a £30m bid for the 18-year-old.
A bid in September seems very unlikely, especially that amount for a player so young. Another claim from journalist Jorge Nicola put the amount of Newcastle’s pending bid close to £20m.
Santos’s club, Vasca da Gama, have received inquiries over their prized midfielder. They recently tied him down to a new long-term contract and will not entertain any offers less than £32m.
Club Director Paulo Bracks has spoken out about the interest in Santos. He has no intention of selling the youngster this year. Bracks admitted there was contact over the player without naming any of the clubs.
Here is what Bracks told Globo Esporte which has been published by Sport Witness:
“Vasco does not have, under this new management, a need to sell athletes. There will be financial stability at the club. Obviously, business will happen. But within an acceptance. From normal negotiations.
“Vasco’s contracts will be stronger and stronger. There is no proposal on the table. Many people approached him. A lot of people who shouldn’t, by the way. Andrey is a Vasco player, with a secure contract. If there is a possibility to negotiate, we will. But not this year.”
Bracks has confirmed there has been no official bids for Santos. He is determined to keep hold of his midfielder unless offers that meet the club’s lofty valuation are received.
The Brazilian season runs until November. He may entertain offers in January though it’s going to take a sizeable fee to get the young Brazilian. Newcastle have likely enquired about Santos but reports of a pending bid seem very wide of the mark.
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74 comments so far
ToonDarnSarf
Sep 8, 2022 at 9:48 AM
Comment #1Munster – NUFC is the best club in the world for me, that’s all I can say. I hope it’s the best club in the world for everyone on here too though! Can’t speak for Liverpool fans, I imagine most of them think Liverpool is the best club in the world for them. For example.
ToonDarnSarf
Sep 8, 2022 at 9:51 AM
Comment #2That’s all I care about to be honest. Other fans can do what they want.
I will say that NUFC under Ashley was NOT the club I chose. It’s why I fell out of love with the club as it was then while still being in love with the soul of the club. Very, very happy to see soul back now and growing stronger!
It’s like being in love with your wife but she’s in a coma. You still love the woman she was but can’t be in love with the lifeless husk that she currently inhabits. Then she wakes up. 🙂
Sir Pugalot, the Dutch Bulldog
Sep 8, 2022 at 9:54 AM
Comment #3repost
Munster, What happens if you are 1/2 Irish and 100% Geordie? Asking for a Frenchy
The Last Jedi
Sep 8, 2022 at 9:56 AM
Comment #4Klopps been sacked!
Tyran21
Sep 8, 2022 at 9:59 AM
Comment #5repost
I feel a fan should support the club’s players even when they make mistakes or not among the best players if they give it all on the pitch. I really can’t understand why some would call their own club’s player shit and stuffs etc…Would they call their own kids shit if one of their kid is not as good as others? 100% NO WAY, unless they are scumbags right?
onmeedsun
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:05 AM
Comment #6These minor hamstring tweaks are proving to be rather longer term as the games tick by. There is nothing worse in football and our 3 best players have one at the same time. I fear our decent start to the season could soon turn into an average one, although the back up players haven’t been too bad. But you need your best players on the pitch.
Sir Pugalot, the Dutch Bulldog
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:09 AM
Comment #7Potter verbal agreement with Chelsea
DrGloom
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:15 AM
Comment #8Almost looked om.skysports to see if klopp had been sacked then saw it was last jedi that posted it 😀
Adamn_92
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:16 AM
Comment #9It’ll be disappointing if ASM and Bruno don’t make the game, but if it means not risking them so there’s not a danger of prolonging their recovery, then so be it. Rather them miss another game or 2 but come back 100% recovered, than come back at the weekend only 70% recovered and aggravate the injury and then miss the next 5-6 games.
We were super unlucky/robbed not to beat Liverpool (Isak second goal) and even more desperately unlucky not to get a draw. Robbed against Palace for a win and dominated Wolves at their own place and super unlucky not to win with Andersen hitting the bar at the end. All those games were without Bruno and 2 out of 3 games (Wolves) were without ASM.
So we can still compete with anyone with those players out, so i’d rather we be patient in bringing them back into the fold until they’re 100% ready and recovered again. It’s been super fine margins in those games and Isak will also get better and better i’m sure.
Adamn_92
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:19 AM
Comment #10Not to mention even with awful VAR and referee decisions against us and key players missing, we’ve only lost once and only 3 points away from 6th. So the rest of the season is looking very positive that we don’t need to risk rushing any players back.
magicmac54
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:21 AM
Comment #11I`m so fortunate to have duel citizenship and have two passports one Irish and one Geordie, they don`t call me the Irish Geordie for nothing 😀 😀 😀
The Last Jedi
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:25 AM
Comment #12Drgloom haha just kidding
ToonDarnSarf
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:28 AM
Comment #13magicmac54 – I like being a chameleon to be honest. I’ve lived all over the country so I can claim a connection to most areas if I want to! 🙂
ToonDarnSarf
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:33 AM
Comment #14For anyone getting on the bandwagon about binning VAR, don’t forget that VAR didn’t disallow the 2nd goal against Liverpool, the assistant referee did. VAR just (correctly) didn’t overrule the decision.
VAR most definitely did screw us over against Palace though…
According to the ESPN site, VAR was (incorrectly) use against us for that goal against Palace but was (correctly) used in our favour for:
– Allowing the Almiron goal v City that was originally flagged for offside
– Downgrading Trippier’s red card to a yellow
– Disallowing Jimenez’s goal for Wolves against us that was originally allowed
Bin VAR and we’d have scored against Palace but likely lost against City and Wolves plus had Trippier sent off.
Harley
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:33 AM
Comment #15My mate put a pic on Facebook of him and Bruno on Tuesday. Bumped in to him on the street. I asked him if he’d asked Bruno about his fitness and he said he did and that he didn’t think he was going to make this weekend.
Harley
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:35 AM
Comment #16Binning VAR would be crazy. But not sure I’ve seen anyone on here campaigning for that.
magicmac54
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:39 AM
Comment #17ToondarnSarf
It`s good to not judge people are be narrow minded no matter what part of the country they live, or what country they come from, i liked Hibbit`s post as he articulated his thinking on being a geordie who supports Newcastle as opposed to being a Newcastle fan from outside the area in a very intelligent and inoffensive way mate.
Sir Pugalot, the Dutch Bulldog
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:39 AM
Comment #18Niafron, no cricket this week, London is under water. Just call the last test a draw.
Lee Charnley Bunga Party
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:40 AM
Comment #19If ASM and Bruno are not quite fit for the next game can they really be allowed away to internationals if selected by their country?
Bruno going away and then getting injured on duty would be a disaster
ASM I feel his injury has burst any chance he had of a callup if he ever had one wonder what his motivation levels will be like once he knows he is certainly out the running for the world cup
ToonDarnSarf
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:43 AM
Comment #20Harley – I’ve seen a few but not many. Most just want it to be used properly. Antonio (West Ham) is apparently calling for it to be binned: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62826450 but I don’t expect footballers to be smart…
ToonDarnSarf
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:44 AM
Comment #21magicmac54 – I agree. Hibbit articulated it very well. I don’t doubt that there’s a difference between Geordies who grew up living in Newcastle and supporting the club to people who grew up elsewhere but made the decision to support the club somewhere along the line. Pointless to say which is better as we’re all Toon fans but there are definitely going to be differences.
ToonDarnSarf
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:46 AM
Comment #22LCBP – this injury thing with Bruno is one reason I’m not on board with the idea that top 4/6 is a strong possibility this season. If we’re relying on our best players being fit for most of the season, that’s just not realistic in my view. We all know that our backup players are not as good as we’d like so we need a bit of luck with injuries this season to fulfil our potential. Take Bruno out for a few months and I doubt anyone would still think we could get top 4.
NY Mag
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:48 AM
Comment #23Magic,
You got the magnum (PI) look going on 😀
Cool dude or what!!!!
Novocastrian66
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:51 AM
Comment #24In regards to VAR; We shouldn’t throw the baby out with the bath water. The technology is sound what needs to be sorted is the people using the tech. Lee Mason needs to be binned, he was a poor referee and he is just as poor in his new role.
The job for the boy’s mentality needs to be reviewed. By all means employ ex-referees however if they continually make mistakes, as in the case of Mason, the need to be removed from their position.
Adamn_92
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:52 AM
Comment #25LCBP
Still surprised ASM gets overlooked by the France national squad. I know they have a lot of gifted players and similar players who are great at dribbling. But I would have thought as an impact sub late in games he’d be an ideal player to have as part of their set up.
Bills Son Is Back
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:53 AM
Comment #26TDS
You don’t expect footballers to be smart??
Why’s that then?
Do you expect that most are thick and can’t make intelligent comments on anything, including VAR?
Put it this way…
I don’t think it was smart of you to make that comment.
Adamn_92
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:55 AM
Comment #27Yeah i’d be surprised if many people are championing for VAR to be binned. The technology is fine and seems to be improving (semi-automated system at the world cup for example) but it’s just the officials using it who need binning. They aren’t up to the task and get calls wrong when there isn’t really any reason to. They have the technology to look at it closely, at different angles and even slow it down to make sure the decision is right. They still don’t.
It’s the officials that need binning, replacing/upgrading or at the very least receive training on a regular basis where they go through big decisions and analyse how to reach the right decision in those situations.
NY Mag
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:55 AM
Comment #28Adam,
Shhsssss…we don’t want him injured on international duty.
Although I’ll make an exception for J7, he totally deserves to go to Qatar 🙂
ToonDarnSarf
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:57 AM
Comment #29Novo – I do agree, however the problem is that if they get rid of experienced referees like Mason, who clearly dropped a bollock, do they have anyone better to replace them with? I don’t imagine people are queueing up to become refs with all of the abuse they get.
Munster Mag
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:58 AM
Comment #30Sir Pugalot, the Dutch Bulldog
Sep 8, 2022 at 9:54 AM
Comment #3
repost
Munster, What happens if you are 1/2 Irish and 100% Geordie? Asking for a Frenchy
Then you would be blessed Pug, and probably very attractive to the opposite sex ( * or the same sex, or whatever you are having yourself…..just ticking the diversity box 🙂 )
Adamn_92
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:59 AM
Comment #31NY Mag
Would be just our luck wouldn’t it? He already injured himself sprinting back to the defensive work against Wolves, something we’ve been wanting to see him do for a while! Bloody typical! 🙂
If Joelinton gets overlooked for the Brazil squad i’d be a little shocked. I’m not sure what else he could be doing currently to show how much of a force he could be in the middle for them. Can imagine players bouncing off of him at the World Cup.
magicmac54
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:59 AM
Comment #32ToonDarnSarf
Living in Ireland we are surrounded by many many people who support the usual suspect`s like Man Utd Liverpool Chelsea Tottenham Arsenal Celtic Rangers etc etc, and we have been the brunt of their jokes for years, it hasn`t been easy, but such is life nothing stays the same for ever, it`s finally our time now mate HWTL
Bills Son Is Back
Sep 8, 2022 at 10:59 AM
Comment #33Novo
We’ll never stop the people running VAR making bad decisions.
Root out the ones making continually bad decisions, I agree, but even Michael Oliver, the best ref we’ve got, never referred that horrendous tackle by Pickford on Van Dyk last year that put him out for nearly a season.
Oliver admitted he was wrong.
If that calibre of ref can make mistakes, any ref can, and they will.
It’s just a case of how many, how often, and how serious the consequences to a team.
The points I have made about VAR are exactly the same as the one’s Callum Wilson made in his podcast with Antonio.
I’d bin VAR for all but offside and goal line technology – and possibly red card decisions. And that’s it. Nowt else.
Adamn_92
Sep 8, 2022 at 11:00 AM
Comment #34TDS
Could work the other way I guess. Out with the old and in with the new regarding referees. Maybe some of the older officials now are still stuck in their old ways a bit and not kept up to speed with how football is changing. A fresh look at it from younger referees who have been trained with VAR from the get go could be a good thing. Pointless having officials in the job just because they have ‘experience’ if that experience is failing them and they’re making the wrong calls.
ToonDarnSarf
Sep 8, 2022 at 11:01 AM
Comment #35Bills – Ummmm…yes, I think most footballers are pretty thick. I thought that was pretty obvious and common knowledge to be honest. Although there are obviously exceptions, most footballers quit education early, never had a “proper job”, don’t deal with money like the rest of us do, and have other people to manage most of their lives. Most of them live a very narrow and focused life.
Lee Charnley Bunga Party
Sep 8, 2022 at 11:02 AM
Comment #36@Adam
The thing is Deschamps doesn’t really seem that keen on a maverick type of player especially one who doesn’t do his defensive contributions
France have loads of really good wingers who can do what ASM does and more
It might be too late I wonder if he has another international team who could defect too? Will take him for Scotland!!
Munster Mag
Sep 8, 2022 at 11:02 AM
Comment #37TDS, I didnt “choose” NUFC. It was foistered on me !
My parents bought me the late 70s kit and I think we wont our first match and i basically became addicted. Its a bit odd, given how little media attention would have been available then etc, but i was just bitten! I read everything i could about them, its was all a bit mad and it never stopped.
ToonDarnSarf
Sep 8, 2022 at 11:04 AM
Comment #38magicmac54 – same for me mate. I was (and am) surrounded by people supporting other clubs and have had to put up with many of them celebrating for winning trophies, enjoying European football, and whinging about something like not winning the league for 3 years…meanwhile…well…we all know what we’ve been through!
Yes, it’s about bloody time we get to celebrate winning something!
Bills Son Is Back
Sep 8, 2022 at 11:05 AM
Comment #39VAR flagging up ‘clear and obvious errors’ is a load of bollix.
Clear and obvious is a matter of opinion – not fact.
To the VAR ref it was clear and obvious Bowen fouled the keeper – to the onfield ref it wasn’t.
How do you ‘train’ a ref to decide that Bowen’s action wasn’t a foul, or that Willock did get pushed and didn’t foul the keeper?
You can’t, it’s a simple as that.
You can teach refs all the rules of the game – but you can’t teach them what is clear and obvious and what isn’t.
No one – in anything – will always have the same opinion.
Munster Mag
Sep 8, 2022 at 11:06 AM
Comment #40Magic, even the kids I coach are seeing NUFC now and are noticing us. One or two even said how we hadnt spent much ( until one said – 200mill is a lot!) .
I think Eddie’s interview is probably as good an example as any, of how us non geordies , like eddie, can quickly “get” nufc.
As has been said here so many times, the Irish passion for sport is massive – I don’t think there is a country in Europe like us for that – so if one bunch of people are going to connect with NUFC from outside Newcastle and surrounding counties , its the Irish.