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Defender Sets Realistic Expectations For Transitional Campaign



Eddie Howe prefers the experience of Dan Burn over Sven Botman for now. The head coach handed the Geordie the start over the summer signing for the Bournemouth draw at St. James’ Park. It was his 23rd straight league appearance for his hometown club.

After the match, Howe confirmed Burn was ahead of the young Dutchman in the pecking order. Burn’s experience has won the day for the time being, though Botman will be one of the future stars to keep this club moving forward.

While the future is bright, there will be growing changes. Two straight draws at home without a goal from open play is a testament to that. Newcastle are still in the infancy (well maybe toddler) stage of their resurrection.

The hopes among the faithful was a push into Europe next season. Those hopes have taken a hit with just one win so far this season. Though Saturday’s win put Newcastle in the top ten which is the conservative aim for this campaign.

Dan Burn spoke about the Bournemouth draw and putting expectations into perspective. This is what he defender as published in The Northern Echo:

“It was hard to break them down when they put everyone behind the ball, and we will come across that a lot this season. Teams are trying to take the sting out of it and dampen the crowd down – it feels like two points lost.

“It’s a change of mentality, and we have to find ways of breaking them down. We need to string a run together. Not getting beaten is good mentality-wise, but we might look back (with regret) at the end of the season at these games when we could have picked up more points.

“Is it a reality check? Maybe a little bit. As a fanbase, we are like that anyway. We always get ahead of ourselves. It has been like that since I was a kid.

“We have to be realistic with the way we look at the takeover and how we are building our squad. Realistically, we should still have targets in our head. Europe is pushing it a bit, but we should be pushing top ten, comfortably. Hopefully, we can reset after the international break.”

The aim should be for a European place this season. However, a comfortable top ten finish will be a very respectable finish. The club have to aim high but not get too distressed if the mark is missed.

The progress over the past 11 months has been remarkable. There will be moments when things don’t go to plan. The fact there is a plan for success is worlds apart from where this club was this time last year.

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132 comments so far

  • Tyran21

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #41

    dazzler

    It’s just Mund missing his old flame……lol

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  • NY Mag

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #42

    Valle,

    Arguments occur when people don’t like each other…..that’s human nature. It won’t ever change regardless of the content of the discussion 🙂

    6
  • Nijmegen-toon

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #43

    I’m really glad Dan Burn has released those comments. It should show those that think the owners are expecting more from their investment, that it is their own expectations that are unrealistic, not the players, manager and especially not the owners.

    5
  • DrGloom

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #44

    Almiron is good for now …if we avoid any flirting with relegation this season that’s actually progress.. will stick withy 8th prediction , anyone hoping top four is getting well ahead of themselves

    2
  • cyprus

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #45

    Ruddy
    You bet 🙂

    1
  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #46

    Cyprus

    I’m not surprised as both are cut from the same cloth. Hard workers, willing runners, will leave it all on the pitch but ultimately don’t produce anywhere near a sufficient level of end product. The whole point as an attacking players is to produce attacking returns which impact the game, and unfortunately neither Guti back in the day or Almiron now produce enough attacking returns. Funny enough, I used to go to university in Newcastle with a Cypriot who adored Guti too, I suspect you two would have a lot in common in that regard haha

    1
  • CLINT FLICK

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #47

    Cyprus

    I’m with ya regarding Miggy.

    As for 3 at the back, doesn’t that effectively already happen throughout the game with trippier delivering most crosses, he’s pretty much our winger/crosser.

    3
  • cyprus

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #48

    Ok, here’s my bet:

    Starting now, Almiron will clock better stats than ASM for the rest of the season.

    (Hope you’re reading here Miggy, sticking my neck out for you my good man.)

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #49

    Cyprus

    That’s an utterly wild suggestion, one that has zero basis in statistical evidence nor is borne out by performances so far this season. Can I ask what is the basis for this claim other than a desire to see Miggy do well (which we all share)?

    1
  • valle

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #50

    Mund

    I would love to see Anderson get a chance, either on the wing or in midfield mate.

    2
  • cyprus

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #51

    I’d guess we’re the same person but I was (slightly) before your time 😉

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  • CLINT FLICK

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #52

    Can’t really see how more players filling the opponent half is conducive to finding space and a path to goal.
    It just gets clogged, balls lumped to static attackers. That’s how a defense copes, init?

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  • cyprus

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #53

    Just place the bet then.

    1
  • valle

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #54

    NY

    How dare you!!! 😉

    1
  • CLINT FLICK

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #55

    Cyrprus

    Courage of conviction!

    😉

    0
  • cyprus

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #56

    The basis is not a pleasant one. I’m a massive fan of ASM as you may know.

    My concern is…

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  • cyprus

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #57

    Thanks Clint:)

    0
  • CLINT FLICK

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #58

    Wed be better served pulling players back and creating space for any creativity to happen in.
    Not something teams do, but hey!

    0
  • NY Mag

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #59

    Cyprus,

    I hope you’re right, I really do….at the end of the season I really hope you’re saying, NY, you’re an effing idiot 🙂

    1
  • CLINT FLICK

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #60

    Cyprus
    Ya welcome.

    I like ya eye!

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  • valle

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #61

    NY

    But you are probably right unfortunatly.

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  • Nijmegen-toon

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #62

    DrGloom,
    We all have affinity to certain players or our favourites. But sometimes we have to accept that they’re just not good enough no matter how they’ve done in the past. The last few games against lesser opposition has highlighted how poor Wood, Fraser, Miggy, Murphy are. And when Ritchie is actually getting minutes that really puts the spotlight on not just the first eleven but the whole squad.

    3
  • cyprus

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #63

    NY
    Would never even think that. You, Ruddy and many on here know their football.

    Hope we’re all wrong in favor of a winning side chasing CL.

    2
  • Nijmegen-toon

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #64

    I even forgot to put Willock and Longstaff in that list, that shows where we are at.

    1
  • CLINT FLICK

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #65

    Some of our mids just aren’t finding the space, and/or quick enough.

    We need a super quick rotation of willing passes. It happens some times, just not all the rime, yet. That’s what miggy’s good at.

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  • Nijmegen-toon

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #66

    My suggestion yesterday on four in four out for the next four windows, is that unrealistic or do-able, is maybe two in two out more like it???

    1
  • CLINT FLICK

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #67

    Nij

    We have to put some of our ‘scapegoats’ in the shop window while not dissing them, in fact bigging them up. To sell.

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #68

    Cyprus

    Given ASMs shocking injury record I’m not putting any money on him, it’s like anyone who puts money on Wilson to score 20 goals a season – he can do it if he stayed fit but he never does so what’s the point?

    I’d take the bet if it were based on a per 90 minutes played/game played basis because Maxi is easily producing greater returns per 90 than Miggy

    0
  • CLINT FLICK

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #69

    PR optics, coach semantics, need ti be played just so, to get cash for our ‘deadwood’.

    1
  • CLINT FLICK

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #70

    Ruddy

    Can’t hedge ya bets, dude!

    😉

    1
  • The Mighty Quinn

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #71

    Nij I don’t mind a peppering of older players for the experience. I still don’t get Dummet getting a new contract though, if we were playing 5 at the back I could see why. But the age thing is another reason why we can’t expect Eddie to keep getting a tune out of the squad. Older players lose their pace. become more injury prone and take longer to recover. So yeah same for me no more players over 26.

    2
  • Nijmegen-toon

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #72

    Ciaran Clark is an excellent example. When suggested it he needed moving out, it was pointed out that he was our best defender (on current form at the time) and that was exactly why we were constantly worried about relegation. Now if we point out that Miggy isn’t good enough, it can be argued that right now he’s the best we’ve got, exactly! And that’s why we’re struggling to break down teams like Wolves, Palace and Bournemouth.

    2
  • Romford mag

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #73

    One thing I did notice in the match, is how many times the ball was being played out to tripps in the attacking third only for miggy to get in the way of the pass or just take the pass away from tripps all together! Happened a few times

    4
  • Mund

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #74

    Yanited
    @NE5westend
    ·
    9m
    On this day in 1998: Newcastle win 5-1 v Coventry at Highfield road (Dabizas, Shearer 2, Speed, Glass)

    https://mobile.twitter.com/NE5westend/status/1571793008986624002

    3
  • valle

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #75

    Dazzler

    Re Willock… I just think his instincts and speed are more suited to counter attacks. He seems to slow down play and misplace his passes when we try to build up play. His best moments for us comes when we get a counter in my view.

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #76

    Clint

    I’d be confident Maxi outperforms Miggy even if Maxi got 20 games and Miggy played 38 but it’s completely skewed figures. In a straight competition I don’t see how anyone thinks Miggy does better numbers than Maxi, surely no one actually thinks he could?

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  • cyprus

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #77

    Ruddy,
    I keep trying to explain those kind of minor points to my bookie, he won’t listen! 😉

    1
  • Harley

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #78

    Great morning reading the posts. 80% of them are about football, which makes a great change.

    I’m agreeing with a lot of the level heads on here. Hopefully the hysterical ones (booing at the game) are a tiny minority.

    We’ve not quite clicked yet and had some bad decisions go against us and been unlucky with woodwork (wolves, Liverpool and Bournemouth). In fact with a tiny bit of luck and better VAR we’d have an extra 6 points and be sitting pretty in 4th.

    Our performances have warranted it and no one would be able to question it when looking at the stats. We’re dominating teams around us but just not quite getting the rub of the green.

    The results will come but we desperately need a rare lucky season with injuries. When our big players are out it makes a huge difference to us.

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  • Mund

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #79

    Yanited
    @NE5westend
    ·
    16m
    On this day in 1992: Newcastle United 5 v Bristol City 0, Division 1. Newcastle goals coming from O’Brien, Peacock 2, Carr, Brock

    Match highlights: http://youtu.be/LOvq3YpH-00

    2
  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Sep 19, 2022 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #80

    TMQ

    I think a big consideration for the owners this summer was to reduce the average age of the squad so I think that was something they are mindful of in our transfer strategy.

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