Sven Botman has opted to remain in Newcastle during the international break. The Athletic is reporting Botman has told Netherlands Under-21 coach Erwin van de Looi that he prefers to train with his club rather than play in their two friendlies against Belgium and Romania.
This is an interesting decision from the 22-year-old with the World Cup just months away. Botman has yet to get his first cap with The Netherlands and it’s unclear if this will impact his international future.
Newcastle head coach Eddie Howe recently stated that Dan Burn was ahead of Botman in the pecking order citing the Geordie’s experience. Though he was full of praise for the Dutchman saying:
“We managed their load in the week where we had three games, so (yesterday) was bringing Dan back. I just feel his leadership skills and his experience, we need that in our team at the moment.
“Sven is going to be an outstanding player and will play many, many games for this club. We love him to bits, but Dan just gets the nod at the moment.”
Botman arrived on Tyneside in late June from Lille for €37m plus add-ons. He has gotten off to a promising start already making 6 appearances. The ball-playing defender looks primed to become one of the league’s best in the future.
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77 comments so far
CLINT FLICK
Sep 20, 2022 at 1:24 PM
Comment #41Nij
Good point.
dazzler
Sep 20, 2022 at 1:24 PM
Comment #42TDS,
If one angle shows him as offside, they all would imv, just some more clearly than others. If the angle is dubious then you have to look at others.
The reality was the linesman flagged which is a joke in itself, as no way he caught an offside that tight on the opposite side of the pitch and then VAR concurred quickly. Had he not flagged I think it would have been a much more detailed look at it and could (not certain) have been argued that he was onside. They only seemed to have a cursory glance at it for me, and it should never be like that. Either you fully review the situation or don’t review it at all.
CLINT FLICK
Sep 20, 2022 at 1:27 PM
Comment #43Basically,
They are having to row back and away from their individual take on var implementation.
They are being found out & found wanting.
CLINT FLICK
Sep 20, 2022 at 1:27 PM
Comment #44Dazzler
You got it!
Davas
Sep 20, 2022 at 1:41 PM
Comment #45Never said the reason ffp was changed was to benefit the small clubs. Just said it might help some against bad owners
G
Sep 20, 2022 at 1:43 PM
Comment #46Completely off subject, Midlands based friend of mine suggests Leicester’s owners are talking to Rafa, should they decide they suddenly can afford to jettison Brendan Rodgers?
Tyran21
Sep 20, 2022 at 1:45 PM
Comment #47dazzler
Agree, no way the linesman have super eyes to watch the ball released from the passer’s feet then zoom in on Isak’s offside.
ToonDarnSarf
Sep 20, 2022 at 1:46 PM
Comment #48Tyran21 – Everton have been poorly managed as they overstretched and gambled on success, often by signing high-risk players. However, from a commercial standpoint they’ve been in the PL since the start I think which makes them a pretty reliable investment. We were virtually a yoyo team under Ashley and it’s going to take a while to replace old agreements and grow our footprint globally. We’ll have lost a lot of our global fans from our previous heyday sadly,
G
Sep 20, 2022 at 1:46 PM
Comment #49David Moyes odds of being sacked have just taken a tumble? Wonder what the bookies have heard?
dazzler
Sep 20, 2022 at 1:48 PM
Comment #50Nijmegen,
It could benefit the smaller clubs, if they invest and build for the long term by pumping their money into maintaining top flight status and invest profits into their infrastructure and academy. The problem is football club owners aren’t exactly known for their patience.
Most of the big clubs were head and shoulders ahead in terms of revenue so it gave them an unfair advantage. The only club who really broke through that was Spurs and even that was because they cashed in on Bale and built a squad from the proceeds.
The problem isn’t the rules, it’s the fact that they were implemented far too late. If FFP came in before Abramovich the PL would be far more competitive now as a result IMO.
If the new rules are % of revenue for transfers and wages then that encourages teams to boost their commercial income. Invest in the squad > play better > higher commercial income as a consequence.
It’s not a level playing field (it never will be), but it encourages the smaller teams to grow and develop. It’s far more sensible to me than FFP.
Nijmegen-toon
Sep 20, 2022 at 1:49 PM
Comment #51Davas,
My post wasn’t aimed at you, it was a rant aimed at the crooks who devised FFP under the pretence it is to help smaller clubs prevent themselves going bankrupt.
ToonDarnSarf
Sep 20, 2022 at 1:53 PM
Comment #52Dazzler – before VAR, refs were expected to make accurate offside decisions but obviously got them wrong sometimes. We could go with a 100% tech solution for offsides (like with the goal line technology) but many people are traditionalists and want to see people make decisions on things like that. Using the example of cricket, I think it makes sense that it has to be 100% convincing to overrule the on-field decision. If it’s not 100% then you give the benefit of the doubt to the on-field ref.
I really don’t know why multiple angles are needed for offside though, not unless a body part is obscured by someone else. It should be quite simple to get the exact timeframe that the ball was touched by a player on the attacking team and then draw lines from the appropriate body parts of the last attacker and defender. As long as those likes are parallel to the end lines of the pitch, it should be clear.
Tyran21
Sep 20, 2022 at 1:56 PM
Comment #53ToonDarnSarf
“We were virtually a yoyo team under Ashley ”
That’s why I think Newcastle have enormous growth potential. Under Ashley, Newcastle might be the worst ran EPL club of the decade.
CLINT FLICK
Sep 20, 2022 at 1:56 PM
Comment #54With the advent of big tv money to all prem clubs, they’re having to scramble to find ways to keep the status quo!
They no like!
Add to that massive investment from buyouts…
Nijmegen-toon
Sep 20, 2022 at 1:58 PM
Comment #55G,
That could be a great move for him and give him a chance to repair his tarnished reputation. That was a ridiculous decision to go to Everton borne out of possibly greed and a desire to live at home while working. It would have done him no harm at all to take a year out and wait for an opportunity like Leicester. Don’t know why the wheels have come off so spectacularly off for Rodgers but a change is definitely needed there.
Toonarmy of Frogs
Sep 20, 2022 at 1:58 PM
Comment #56Valle he has to have an adult membership. Full price too.
Which is weird as you can get concessions on young, retired and student season tickets.
No rhym or reason? (it would seem)
Nijmegen-toon
Sep 20, 2022 at 1:59 PM
Comment #57Is relegated every seven years a yo-yo club. We were 100% going down without that TO mind.
Nijmegen-toon
Sep 20, 2022 at 2:01 PM
Comment #58Toonarmy of Frogs,
I don’t think k you have to show id to buy the membership, I’m sure he could get away with a game.
ToonDarnSarf
Sep 20, 2022 at 2:01 PM
Comment #59Tyran21 – enormous growth potential is correct! 🙂 I just think it will take time. Those 3 clubs you mentioned, Chelsea, Arsenal, and Spurs, have been well run for a long time now so it’s going to take a long time to catch them up.
Even clubs like Everton and West Ham have been run better than us in commercial operations.
ToonDarnSarf
Sep 20, 2022 at 2:03 PM
Comment #60Nijmegen – it’s why I used the word “virtually”. But yeah, we’d be in the PL for a few years, then down, backup for a few years, then down, then up again and we were almost certainly heading down again…
Not quite the same as Fulham but still not a reliable PL club for a sponsor to invest time and money into.
ToonDarnSarf
Sep 20, 2022 at 2:05 PM
Comment #61FFP reduces both risk and opportunity for the smaller clubs. Bigger clubs can take more risks because they have more leeway in terms of financial reserves but when a smaller club (like Everton) gambled, they’re screwed if they lose that gamble. Man Utd have been gambling on players for years (and losing) but it’s not as if they’re struggling financially because of it…
Nijmegen-toon
Sep 20, 2022 at 2:06 PM
Comment #62I wonder what benefits Ashley got from Castore and Fun88 for his dubious long term deals.
G
Sep 20, 2022 at 2:06 PM
Comment #63TDS @ 61. Notts Forest have taken a massive gamble then, which could threaten the very existence of the club.
Nijmegen-toon
Sep 20, 2022 at 2:09 PM
Comment #64G,
It goes beyond any reasonable explanation as to what Forest have done, it’s like the owner is suffering from some kind of delirium.
G
Sep 20, 2022 at 2:10 PM
Comment #65I think their owner has based his finance model on risk, assuming 3 years of Prem footy. If they get relegated, then I think they’re genuinely kapput!
CLINT FLICK
Sep 20, 2022 at 2:11 PM
Comment #66Nufc was run for ashley not allowing others in to cash in.
Hence the club lost out.
Tyran21
Sep 20, 2022 at 2:11 PM
Comment #67ToonDarnSarf
The owners is already almost matching the top 6’s sleeve sponsor deal. They are getting around 10mil a year, while Newcastle is at 7.5mil. Surely they will find ways to match other commercial incomes.
As for world wide brand, Newcastle brand grows just by the taking over. Imagine winning something, the brand would boom. https://www.lovethesales.com/press/articles/football-shirt-sales
ToonDarnSarf
Sep 20, 2022 at 2:15 PM
Comment #68G – it does look like Forest have made a massive gamble to try and stay in the PL! Though I haven’t looked into it deeply enough to see how many of their players have decent resale value and obviously I don’t know about clauses in contracts in the event of relegation. They could have been smart about it or they could have taken a massive gamble, not sure. I suspect their future spending will be limited due to FFP anyway…so they better hope they’ve bought well!
ToonDarnSarf
Sep 20, 2022 at 2:17 PM
Comment #69Tyran21 – for sure the potential is there, it’s just going to take some time.
We’ve got a bunch of advantages over the likes of Everton, West Ham, and Villa anyway. Our famous black & white stripes, relatively recent legends like Shearer, KK, and SBR, our Entertainers period that got us global fans, our amazing fan base, being a one club city, and our reputation as a sleeping giant. Lots of things to capitalise on.
Davas
Sep 20, 2022 at 2:21 PM
Comment #70Nik
No sweat, I was just clarifying in case it came across as that.
Munster Mag
Sep 20, 2022 at 2:26 PM
Comment #71G, I saw a good podcast from a qpr fan about Forest. He reckons they have bought well and have solid resale values.
They’re not called Notts by the way 🙂
Munster Mag
Sep 20, 2022 at 2:27 PM
Comment #72I’d sár rafa Will get Leicester or possibly West ham. Plum jobs for him.
ToonDarnSarf
Sep 20, 2022 at 2:28 PM
Comment #73Oh yeah…G, Nottingham Forest fans hate being called Notts Forest. It’s Forest or Nottingham Forest. Notts is reserved for Notts County.
valle
Sep 20, 2022 at 2:28 PM
Comment #74Nijmegen
But to buy a membership, we would have to use his profile, which list his age. So thats a no go im afraid.
valle
Sep 20, 2022 at 2:30 PM
Comment #75TOF
Yes, it doesnt seem use friendly does it? I havnt had much luck with the online store either. I wont be using that again unless its something like a cap or a scarf.
CLINT FLICK
Sep 20, 2022 at 2:30 PM
Comment #76Not forest, then!
😀
magpiePL
Sep 20, 2022 at 2:36 PM
Comment #77If Premier League wants to play for top6 clubs by that %-nonsense, we should play dirty too. Sell Longstaff, Manquillo and other not good enough players to clubs in Saudi Arabia for 200M each (PIF would “lend” them money for that) and those restrictions would not affect us and we would pi** top6 completly 🙂 As FFP states – f**c fair play 😉