In our poll for the quarter-final tie at Manchester City over the weekend, which we lost 2-0, Bruno Guimaraes yop the poll as our best player with over 30% of the vote.
Rumors are brewing that the top executives at Newcastle think we need to sell one or more players this summer to be able to spend money to strengthen other positions in the side.
And we know Bruno has a release clause in his contract for £100M, so we could sell him to a top club and have that £100M (and more depending on PSR) to spend on new players this summer.
We really hope we are not still in the business of selling our best players, and we would prefer to keep Bruno and sell some other players – maybe like Sean Longstaff and others – but not the current star of our side – that seems a little daft to us.
What do you think?
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217 comments so far
Essex Geordie Bill
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:10 PM
Comment #161For the record I aint having a dig at anyone, just adding my opinion! 🙂
coming home
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:12 PM
Comment #162Bad news re Botman but now it must be time to play Hall LB and move Burn over
Essex Geordie Bill
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:13 PM
Comment #163Anyway, have to go out, later.
Davas
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:14 PM
Comment #164Egb
Just for the record, I didn’t take it as a dig and was just clarifying in case anybody misunderstood what I was saying 🙂
Fat Basta*d
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:16 PM
Comment #165Not even next season and we have a big player out. Possibly Tonali could get ban extended. And people say next season will be a belter. It will be same as this. Injuries will occur frequently. Eddie needs to learn how to get 11 players together and win games. Cant use injuries as excuse anymore they are inevitable
Novocastrian66
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:17 PM
Comment #166There is no doubt the Botman injury has been mis-managed. I’m not having a go at Howe, the coaching team or Botman.
This is firmly in the court of the doctors. They’ve messed this up. Let’s hope that Botman hasn’t suffered any permanent damage.
Davas
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:20 PM
Comment #167As EH has said, they continually assess things so I’m sure they’ll be taking a look at the medical team as part of that but does anybody have a list of the actual mistakes the medical team have made. It could make interesting reading one way or the other.
magscar
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:21 PM
Comment #168Davas
yes sounds like one that wasn’t universally agreed as a definite op and of course something that happens in the real world as well :-
Even out in here in normality we can get second opinions – not all injuries./medical problems can be reduced to one obvious procedure in every case
Why is Longstaff playing with and injury and matchday injections -on balance the concensus is presumably because it’s a viable option
Munster Mag
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:22 PM
Comment #169Davas did you see the physio on the ground with Gordon? Wudnt inspire confidence.
Mind u if I had said that, some old twat on here wud be in like flynn, saying I’m putting the knife into the club.
Some serious oddities on here.
WLtoon
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:23 PM
Comment #170https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxyqRwUywBg
Interesting
coming home
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:25 PM
Comment #171In a way the pressure is off for this season, we aren’t gonna get relegated or champs league so play yu Halls,Mileys and Tino maybe try Tino in front of Tripps and just use Dennis Twice’s tactics
carltoon
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:25 PM
Comment #172Magsgar, still here ( less of the old 😮 ) but only post now and again, glad your able to post, Can’t imagine how your life has changed.
I’ve been ill for about ten months, had to transfer my ST ticket to my son, just getting a little better now, still seeing the Doctor though.
Hope I’m still around to see us win something, they better hurry up.
Munster Mag
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:25 PM
Comment #173So ” we took a gamble” then?
I’ll bet Sven is impressed with our gambling ?
magscar
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:25 PM
Comment #174CH
Targett is back from his injury though
Hmm ……what are the chances he gets a reocurrence?
100% is my guess on current form
Seriously though he is and with Trips back soon there is him or Tino as well?
Munster Mag
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:28 PM
Comment #175WL, if PIF stay with us, I’ve no doubt we will move.
And if we don’t, we won’t compete with the big 4 for CL football.
In the meantime I hope we don’t flog Bruno to close the gap in spending ability
( sorry lads I’m fked off right now)
Charlie in the Gallowgate
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:29 PM
Comment #176Botman injury mismanaged
Not sure as he decided against a operation
coming home
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:29 PM
Comment #177Magscar
Thing is we know what Targett brings we need to find out what Hall is made of so I’d play him, if we gonna sign him we need to know how he handles himself in a match not just in training
Munster Mag
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:30 PM
Comment #178Carltoon we can all wish away this season, but I won’t be betting on the fitness and care re players like Isak, Tripps, the two Joe’s etc next season.
coming home
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:33 PM
Comment #179Munster
“If P.i.f stay with us” ?
Of course they are you think they bought us on a whim come on marra they aren’t the type to do something to make a quick buck
Davas
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:46 PM
Comment #180Magscar
Yeah, the club was between a rock and a hard place with getting different advice from different specialists.
Saratoga
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:46 PM
Comment #181Bad news but who knows how the decision was arrived at.
I watch nufc matters a canny bit. Weeks ago the Geordie Dentist/ Mitch said if you need an operation you need an operation. No end of rest will fix it. I know dentists don’t treat knees. He had however been chatting to a specialist as one medical professional to another.
Raj of Hailsley
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:51 PM
Comment #182“Mind u if I had said that, some old twat on here wud be in like flynn, saying I’m putting the knife into the club”
You did say that did you not?
Munster Mag
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:51 PM
Comment #183Saratoga, be careful buddy, you are “putting the knife in” and you will be branded accordingly by some ostriches and helmets.
Raj of Hailsley
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:55 PM
Comment #184Well thoroughly got me down that news, I doubt we’ll see him until January now, no point in bringing him back for a hectic run of games in December. We just bring in a ready to go replacement maybe a bit more experienced and expensive than we would have liked. Onwards we march.
lesh
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:55 PM
Comment #185Magscar
Thanks for the Emmylou/ Knopfler tip. I’ll have a look for that.
Magicmac’s a big fan of Emmylou and he’ll doubtless be in there, drooling.
lesh
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:57 PM
Comment #186Magic
Especially for you….
https://youtu.be/dCiRap5a3Ms?si=IS9rwPFnP_xRpFBQ
Munster Mag
Mar 20, 2024 at 7:58 PM
Comment #187That angry bloke on Ever More Nufc making the same point as me re player care, culpability etc.
Now asking why the hell we are playing Longstaff with injections.
Not a great advert to get guys to us.
I suppose the guy who presents this is against nufc like me the, what with putting the knife in etc
I’d better text him and tell him to make friends with Jail and the Ostriches.
Munster Mag
Mar 20, 2024 at 8:00 PM
Comment #188CH, yes that’s a bit dramatic out of me, but did they really think they wud be this restricted.
Their one biggest difference is money, but they can’t spend it.
Do you think they wud have set up Liv golf on this basis?
Prem league basturds
magscar
Mar 20, 2024 at 8:06 PM
Comment #189Carltoon
Arrh I’m sorry to hear that – another thing I’ve missed in my absence
Stay strong lass!
I can see that more than ever calm and balanced opinions are still good currency amongst the often pointless squabbles on here
Hope your lad treasures his good fortune – better than the Ashley years and I’m sure he does having been raised proppa 😉
Hope your daughter ( abroad – Thailand?) is doing OK and you get to see her despite your ill-health
In my case I’ve never had as much free time, been as comfortably off and in reasonable health for 74 yet can’t seem to find a way to move forward
KIds tell me I’m doing fine so maybe I’m expecting too much too soon
Walk nearly everyday listening to music/podcasts for 4 miles or more. I babysit my young grandson, am trying to teach myself piano ( can’t do my amateur guitar anymore because of arthritic fingers) and have discovered the delights of Bandlab / Cakewalk ( music creation apps) with my son as we try out covers and even some of his songs just for our own fun.
Need a college course to get hang of the music apps nevermind the piano!
Gets me through the days that can be slow:)
I even go shopping at times with my 2 daughters and eldest grandaugher just as she did ( girlie day out which they all loved 🙂 ) can’t say I do but the coffees and pints! on occasion help
I’m doing Ok though – great family and 7 grandkids I adore and strive to help bring up the right way , living good family values, having empathy for others ( just as “wor lass” did) and we do a lot of things together,
They all embrace these beliefs and as importantly are all NUFC fans
Never a better time
Sooner or later tragedy strikes and I’m not alone on here or in the wider world in suffering but i was brought up to count my blessings and I stll do and they outweigh the crap
Hey I better not overdo a “long lovely post”
Later then …..Oh and I also have my fingers crossed that I see another trophy ( after Fais Cup) before I join “wor lass” 🙂
The Ledge
Mar 20, 2024 at 8:06 PM
Comment #190“Couple of things worth noting on Sven Botman ACL injury:
Understand the club were happy for him to have surgery back in Oct/Nov, but Botman himself decided to rest instead as he wanted to get back and help the team ASAP.
He, and the club, had taken advice from multiple specialists and there wasn’t a definitive answer as to what the best course of action was.
Also, a number of other players have re-ruptured ACLs having had surgery in between, so surgery isn’t always a 100% fix.
Despite all that, the decision has been a bad one as Newcastle now probably need two CBs this summer”
From Keith Downie .
Bad news all around really and to think somehow the plums on here were writing him off.
Ooooo........it's Nicky the ball tosser
Mar 20, 2024 at 8:07 PM
Comment #191Struggling to see us bringing in a mid. Tonali, Bruno and Joelinton are a top notch starting 3, and Longstaff, Willock, Miley and Anderson excellent cover. It’s only injuries and suspension that has made us appear stretched there. To my way of thinking we will probably be looking to move on some or all of Almiron, Wilson, Targett, Dummett and Ritchie, and also possibly Lascelles, and as a priority bringing in a CF and LB, while running the rule over Minteh in pre season, and also looking at a rcb.
The only way we lose a mid is for top money, or someone wants to leave, or a release clause is triggered. Losing Bruno for example, wouldn’t be ideal, but you get one hundred million plus, and it unlocks potentially twice that, with owners wanting to put everything the rules allow into the team, kinda seems a bit of a no brainer to me.
Bruno is our best player, but is he better to have than the 3 or 4 excellent his additions his sale would allow? I don’t think he is.
lesh
Mar 20, 2024 at 8:07 PM
Comment #192Magscar
Here’s a clip Emmylou ably assisted by quite an array of talent.
https://youtu.be/R1JOjh4YsNc?si=YGc2CMzwx_2KdMsZ
If you haven’t seen the first of the sessions, it’s worth a youtube look.
Munster Mag
Mar 20, 2024 at 8:09 PM
Comment #193The decision was a bad one.
Correct.
The Ledge
Mar 20, 2024 at 8:11 PM
Comment #194And club took advice from multiple specialist.
Not some plums on YouTube who know f..k all
Raj of Hailsley
Mar 20, 2024 at 8:12 PM
Comment #195From Nufc.com
Latest:
Botman bombshell
From NUFC, Wednesday, here we go again….
Newcastle United defender Sven Botman will undergo surgery next week after suffering a knee injury against Manchester City.
Following further assessment, a scan has confirmed that he sustained an injury to his ACL during Saturday’s match and he is expected to return to action within six-to-nine months.
The Dutch centre-back initially sustained a knee injury in September 2023 and elected for a non-surgical rehabilitation plan – a decision which saw him return to action in December.
The 24 year-old completed the entirety of the 8-0 victory at Sheffield United last September but then missed the home Carabao Cup win over Manchester City what was termed “a knock”.
By the following weekend’s PL visit of Burnley to Gallowgate, Howe estimated Botman’s absence to span the following month’s international break.
In reality though he missed a total of 17 league and cup fixtures before returning at home to Fulham.
Since then he’s appeared in all but one of United’s games in all competitions but struggled to recreate his previous form and looked anything but comfortable in recent weeks.
“and elected for a non-surgical rehabilitation plan ”
And that ties in with exactly what The Ledge has just posted, there was obviously a few roads to go down and the player chose that one, I’m pretty sure if all the specialists had of said have an op he would have, but given options he’s chosen not to. However, blame must be apportioned, fingers wagged and a delight in saying I told you.
magicmac54
Mar 20, 2024 at 8:12 PM
Comment #196Lesh@186
Emmylou & Mark Knopfler, just what the doctor ordered my friend, thanks very much for sharing mate, very much appreciated Lesh lad.
Raj of Hailsley
Mar 20, 2024 at 8:13 PM
Comment #197Nicky,
Lascelles took a one year extension last month, he’ll be here another season.
Davas
Mar 20, 2024 at 8:14 PM
Comment #198Interesting, Ledge. Going back on what I said earlier, I guess you can’t force a player to have an operation.
magscar
Mar 20, 2024 at 8:14 PM
Comment #199Munster@173
Surely you don’t believe that Sven wasn’t part of the discussion and complicit in the decision made
It’s inconcievable that he wasn’t involved and probably would be a basis for a negligence claim if he wasn’t
magscar
Mar 20, 2024 at 8:17 PM
Comment #200catching up with other posts now since my epic to Carltoon and ” he elected ” meaning Sven seems to indicate he was instrumental in deciding what was best for him?