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Sven Botman Out For 6-9 Months With ACL Injury – What’s Going On?

Newcastle have announced a rather surprising and distressing injury to Sven Botman.

We know Botman has had a knee injury and has been playing injured for a month or more. so what are the medical staff at Newcastle doing?

We have had more injuries this season than in any season in recent memory.

Newcastle must get to the bottom of why this has been the case – with the Botman injury hopefully leaving some embarrassed people in the medical department.

Particularly those who are responsible for diagnosing injuries and selecting the initial treatment.

Here’s the distressing statement issued by Newcastle today on Botman:

Sven Botman has suffered an ACL knee injury against Manchester City and will be out 6-9 months.

Newcastle United defender Sven Botman will undergo surgery next week after suffering a knee injury against Manchester City.

Following further assessment, a scan has confirmed that he sustained an injury to his ACL during Saturday’s match and he is expected to return to action within six-to-nine months.

The Dutch center-back initially sustained a knee injury in September 2023 and elected for a non-surgical rehabilitation plan – a decision which saw him return to action in December.

Everyone at Newcastle United wishes Sven a full and speedy recovery.

This injury asks some big questions of the medical department on all the injuries we have had and initial decisions made on their treatment.

There should be an independent investigation of all our injuries this season.

This includes the diagnosis, initial treatment, why these initial decisions were made, what the alternatives were, and why some players like Botman and Longstaff were (are) playing while injured.

We are already damaged by injuries for next season.


And Botman’s absence will not help us in the final 10 games of this season while we try to qualify for Europe.

What do you think?

119 comments so far

  • Fat Basta*d

    Mar 20, 2024 at 10:20 PM

    Comment #41

    Looks like that offer of a pint or 2 has been withdrawn 😀

  • magicmac54

    Mar 20, 2024 at 10:24 PM

    Comment #42


    Cheers mate, i seen you mentioned Mary Black earlier, she spent a lot of her childhood at her grandparents on Rathlin Island with her sister Frances.

    This is Mary and Frances Black with Mary Coughlan & Sharon Shannon on RTE One.

  • magicmac54

    Mar 20, 2024 at 10:26 PM

    Comment #43

    It might be better with the link magscar 😀


  • magicmac54

    Mar 20, 2024 at 10:31 PM

    Comment #44


    Music is the International Language, in theory it`s what truly Unites us all mate.

  • magscar

    Mar 20, 2024 at 10:33 PM

    Comment #45


    Great song and performance

    Written by one if her accompanying musicians Eleanor McEvoy who played it with her the last time I saw her at Newcastle City Hall

    I also managed to see Eleanor solo here in Scarborough a few years ago – another talented lady

  • Fat Basta*d

    Mar 20, 2024 at 10:34 PM

    Comment #46


    How fatty fenners tricks his neighbours 😀

  • magicmac54

    Mar 20, 2024 at 10:46 PM

    Comment #47


    You seen to be quite knowledgeable and well informed on the music front, do you have a wide interest in most types of music mate? As for myself i like most types of music anything from Pop to Classical.

  • Harley

    Mar 20, 2024 at 11:01 PM

    Comment #48

    I’d take Kelly on a free. Not great injury record but really good player.
    Also Tosin seems a no brainer if we can get him.

    Another free I’d snap your hand off for is Ross Barkley. Oh how we could have done with him this season.

  • onmeedsun

    Mar 20, 2024 at 11:01 PM

    Comment #49

    At what point can a club turn round and say to the PL that they can’t fulfill their fixtures due to injuries? Squad is limited to 25. So if we have 10 out, we can still pick from 15. What if 15 are out. We then have to pick youngsters. But doesn’t that mess with sporting integrity? And as a business, we’re not allowed to invest during an injury crisis to protect our investment. It’s just plain fecking bonkers.

  • magicmac54

    Mar 20, 2024 at 11:08 PM

    Comment #50


    I couldn`t agree more on Ross Barkley Harley, that lad has been nothing short of sensational this season for Luton, and looks one of the best midfielders in the premier league, i would dearly love him at the Toon Harley mate.

  • coming home

    Mar 20, 2024 at 11:23 PM

    Comment #51


    That’s a good point

    The squad size should be 30 IMO with so many games and the speed of the game its hard to keep players injury free these days

  • Fenham to Chalfont

    Mar 20, 2024 at 11:24 PM

    Comment #52

    All you whiners out there morning we’ve had a below average season, look at our injuries and digest it:

    Nick Pope – Shoulder – May 24
    Joelinton – Groin – until May 24
    Callum Wilson – Chest – until May 24
    Harvey Barnes – Hamstring – until March 24
    Kieran Trippier – Calf – until April 24
    Tino Livramento – Ankle – until March 24
    Sven Botman – ACL – until January 25
    Sandro Tonali – Suspension until 27th Aug 24

    Then with the all the other niggly injuries Isak for one…

    NUFC have lost a crazy amount of days nearing an amount of 1,500 due to injuries since the season kicked off. The worst injury record in EPL history.

    Yes NUFC need to do some deep investigating to get to the root cause of the above situation. This needs serious action taken as it cannot happen again.

  • Fenham to Chalfont

    Mar 20, 2024 at 11:28 PM

    Comment #53

    6 of the 8 not figured through injuries or suspension (throw Isak in there also all signings since the takeover…Absolute liberty !!!!

  • Assassins Inc

    Mar 20, 2024 at 11:48 PM

    Comment #55

    Don’t worry about Botman lads and lasses.
    We have an Irish International that will slide in and be the Paul McGrath of Newcastle United.
    Come on lad, it’s your time to shine Mr Alex Murphy.
    Joking apart, it would be good to see if the lad can handle the pressure, I’m sure he can.
    As someone stated, this may be a good time to give some of the fringe players a chance to avoid more injuries.

  • Fat Basta*d

    Mar 20, 2024 at 11:53 PM

    Comment #56

    Digest it:

    Burger – July 2134
    Chips with gravy – Jan 2045
    Pizza – Aug 3245
    Roast Chicken – Feb 2045
    Chocolate pudding with custard – June 2030
    Beef lasagne – March 2076


  • Fat Basta*d

    Mar 20, 2024 at 11:54 PM

    Comment #57


    Pot noodle – 2043
    Nutella – 2345


  • Fat Basta*d

    Mar 20, 2024 at 11:55 PM

    Comment #58

    1,500 … is that calories? Surely more like 4,669,877 calories per day


  • Fat Basta*d

    Mar 20, 2024 at 11:57 PM

    Comment #59

    Jack Grealish available

  • Assassins Inc

    Mar 20, 2024 at 11:59 PM

    Comment #60

    Not saying this is the reason but didn’t all of the clubs this guy worked at had major injury issues?
    If so, what the flying fcuk are we doing.

    King was Head of Academy Sport Science and Medicine for the Cherries ( Bournemouth ) from 2012 to 2014 and their First Team Physio from 2016 to 2021. He joined Leicester as First Team Rehab Physio in July 2021.

    Not sure if Danny Murphy the old physio had the same issue with injuries.
    Maybe he did, let’s hope someone at the club looks into this to see what the hell is going on.

  • magscar

    Mar 21, 2024 at 12:04 AM

    Comment #61


    Yes I’ve loved music since before I was even a teen

    Love music from most eras from late 50’s to now and maybe 20’s for blues

    Like Folk, Alt- country, Classic Rock, Blues
    Good pop like Abba, The much maligned Taylor Swift

    Born in the 50s but made in the 60s so late 60s was my favourite era but I like to keep up with modern music as well but mainly guitar bands

    Rap I don’t really get and struggle with Jazz but like quite a lot of classical and film scores by Hans Zimmer, Ennio Morricone,

    Essentially good lyrics, melody, chord structure and harmony and I’ll listen

    Music is my goto when I need a lift, inspiration or relaxation- gets me through the hard yards

  • magscar

    Mar 21, 2024 at 12:12 AM

    Comment #62

    Ross Barkley has certainly revived his career after poor move to Chelsea – not only young player to find the grass isn’t always greener….

    Really caught eye at Everton and looks good in a dynamic Luton side but what would he cost?

    Used to think.he maybe had an attitude problem but seems to have matured

    Another powerful box to box midfielder – do we need another?

    Not sure if he’s a best fit for a position we’re desperate for but a good player

  • magscar

    Mar 21, 2024 at 12:17 AM

    Comment #63


    Not too many eye openers in that article …….except for those who think Eddie is a one trick pony maybe 🙂

    Good read cheers

  • Munster Mag

    Mar 21, 2024 at 12:28 AM

    Comment #64

    Assassins, Alex Murphy looks like a very decent calm player. I’ve talked to a guy who knows him and he’s a bright guy apparently.

    Like most Irish athletes so.

    Hope he makes it.

  • Munster Mag

    Mar 21, 2024 at 12:31 AM

    Comment #65

    Well Onmeed, Fenners of the bipolar disordered personality said he would stand me a pint. I said same, offering to buy him one in Ireland . You said you wud wait for his answer.

    Well you saw his reply earlier.

    I think you’ve had the answer to your question!

  • Munster Mag

    Mar 21, 2024 at 12:34 AM

    Comment #66

    Classic case of a helmet shouting the odds about a player from another club , and then actually reading his injury profile and then stopping shouting.

    Might be better to think and read and research before you shout next time eh?

  • Munster Mag

    Mar 21, 2024 at 12:39 AM

    Comment #67

    Hopefully Eddie will migrate to playing two styles because constant high press can’t work. The Tonali signing, instead of getting a 6, suggests that this is his philosophy.

    Or, to sign a 6 who can also be an 8 ( bit like Bruno I suppose )

    Big summer to come, but the Botman injury is a killer for the budget surely?

    Oh, I forgot we don’t have a budget, as some guys so wisely told us in the past

    Course not!

  • coming home

    Mar 21, 2024 at 12:55 AM

    Comment #68


    To be fair your 1 bloke I’d not want a pint with your too fcuking angry and we’d be rolling about the car park anyone else on here I’d be happy to share a pint with

  • magscar

    Mar 21, 2024 at 1:38 AM

    Comment #69

    Blog round midnight used to be more or less a safe place, a chill zone

    Now it’s either an empty street with last autumn’s last survlving leaves blowing about or folk staying behind closed curtains as gunslingers look to put notches on their guns as they shoot down any stray strands of posts that were so fired up they haven’t yet laid down for the night

    Looks like it’s back to the Kindle as a sleeping pill then 😉

  • The Ledge

    Mar 21, 2024 at 5:10 AM

    Comment #70

    I trust our recruitment department this summer they haven’t let us down yet .
    Wd have signed some brilliant players, both first team ready and youth player .
    If they listened to some of our experts on here, we would be stuck with the lies of Dennis,Murdyk, Cornet, etc .
    Some people just better sticking to YouTube, I think !

  • Unused Substitute

    Mar 21, 2024 at 5:12 AM

    Comment #71

    Magic @1: please consider signing in with something like we’re-in-the-net instead of your usual back-of-the-net. Hope you don’t start pelting at me like many on this platform of late.

  • Unused Substitute

    Mar 21, 2024 at 5:22 AM

    Comment #72

    Bruce the idiot was so successful in hard wiring Lascelles’ brain, rewiring it is turning out to be a chore. After so many months Lascelles is unable to keep things clean over 90 minutes. So Eddie had to put Botman on before perhaps he was fully fit. And here we are…

  • Raj of Hailsley

    Mar 21, 2024 at 5:36 AM

    Comment #73

    I honestly didn’t realise how many fans were privy to the decision making by specialists regarding knee injuries, twitter is full of them.

  • Raj of Hailsley

    Mar 21, 2024 at 5:42 AM

    Comment #74

    It’s as though we’ve gone to a series of speciists who’ve all said you need an op and just completely ignored them and let the player decide. Some people want to believe this because it gives them an excuse to rant and rave.

  • Raj of Hailsley

    Mar 21, 2024 at 5:42 AM

    Comment #75

    Excellent post from UT over the road
    “A tad devastating the Botman news.
    As it wasn’t a full knacker job they decided it was worth taking the risk on recovery by itself.
    If the specialists were saying and I would imagine world leading knee quacks that he could have recovered, then the gamble was a logical decision. He rested and was given green light to train and play. The knee has deteriorated and he goes under the knife. He’s still out for 9 months whether he had the op in Oct or now with a possibility he recovered and didn’t need one. It’s a sound decision.
    Unless the Botman was feeling it all the time and not letting on. I always think big Joe is guilty of this. I admire their commitment and just hope they shrug it off.
    But aye, the club must just use year 1 medical students for advice on possible critical injuries to vital 1st team club project players who start every game”

  • Raj of Hailsley

    Mar 21, 2024 at 5:47 AM

    Comment #76

    Exactly, he would have still been out for the season so they’ve took the advice onboard and to try and get him back for cups runs, CL group stages and a top six finish, it’s not paid off and we lose him until next January. We just accelerate our plans to replace Schar, instead of a young up and coming CB like maybe they’d planned, we buy a PL ready and have to spend an extra few quid. Don’t know wtf has happened to this fan base these last few months.

  • Raj of Hailsley

    Mar 21, 2024 at 7:14 AM

    Comment #77

    I see you’ve suggested a Toney type striker, carrying on from yesterday’s debate what would be your plans for Isak if they bought a 90 minute man and outright CF?

  • Harley

    Mar 21, 2024 at 7:30 AM

    Comment #78


    Barkley is free at the end of the season. Signed a 1 year £20k per week deal with Luton. I’d imagine there’ll be a host of clubs after him.

  • Arthur Romsdale

    Mar 21, 2024 at 7:31 AM

    Comment #79

    Our summer budget is going to go on our backline. Starting left full. Starting center back. Depending on trips legs it could be a starting right back also. Livramento not good enough for what we’re aiming for.

  • Hibbit

    Mar 21, 2024 at 7:32 AM

    Comment #80

    Munster is positively drooling in every post at Botman’s injury,


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