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Guimaraes – Disappointed With This Season – But Happy And So Grateful At Newcastle



Bruno Guimaraes is very ambitious, and he is at the right club at the moment, with the Newcastle owners wanting Newcastle United to become one of the best and most liked clubs in world football – as quickly as possible. while abiding by the FFP rules (PSR)

That’s a short but effective way of stating Newcastle’s ambitions since becoming majority-owned by the Saudi Arabia PIF.

Guimaraes signed a new long-term contract at Newcastle earlier this season, which lasts through 2028, and it includes a release clause of £100M, so if a club bids that release clause amount, they can talk to the player about personal terms.

The 26-year-old midfielder is crucial to Newcastle’s creativity in the middle of the park.

Guimaraes is still improving under Eddie Howe and he is currently preparing with the Brazil squad, for the game at Wembley between England and Brazil tomorrow night, where hopefully Newcastle’s Anthony Gordon will get his first cap for the full England side.

We have had a difficult and rather disappointing season so far, although we were unlucky to exit the Carabao Cup and the Champions League by conceding late goals at Chelsea and PSG respectively.

And we have had far too many injuries, which must be looked at this summer before next season starts.

Here is an interview Guimaraes has given at the Brazilian training camp:

“This season we have been struggling,” “I think we’ve had many problems with injuries and suspensions but this is part of the process.”

“When I signed for the club I knew that this would happen.”

“Things have happened too quickly. During my two years at the club, we reached a final, unfortunately, we didn’t win but we got there after 20 years which was massive for the club.”

“I don’t know. I am not involved in that (when asked pontedly about Newcastle selling top players to strengthen other positions in the side).

“We never know what is going to happen but I’m happy at the club.”

“Of course, I’m disappointed about our season but I think we still have a chance to finish at least seventh, Europa League or Conference League.”

“But about the club staff, I cannot speak too much. I don’t know what is going to happen in the future but what I can say is I am so grateful for Newcastle.”

That’s a good interview from Guimaraes with the Brazilian as positive as he can be.

But if the higher-up executives at Newcastle think it is the best thing to do this summer to sell him and use the £100M to strengthen other positions at the club, he will be sold.

That’s the brutal truth – and we hope it doesn’t happen.

What do you think?


165 comments so far

  • dazzler

    Mar 22, 2024 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #1

    Munster,

    On Howe – He was part of the decision to let the player decide? Surely, that’s just an intentional attempt at a wind up.

    It’s his fkn knee man, medically/legally it’s Botman’s decision and his decision alone.

    Howe isn’t his da, he’s his boss. He can offer guidance, of course, but he has absolutely zero say in what medical procedures Botman should or shouldn’t get.

    If I get hurt at work and I get two opinions in no way would my boss be “allowing” me to make the decision as it has fk all to do with him.

    Botman decided to go with what he thought was best, and it didn’t work out. It happens, there is no blame and no one is responsible.

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  • carltoon

    Mar 22, 2024 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #2

    Dazzler! Exactly.

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  • carltoon

    Mar 22, 2024 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #3

    Some players even go back to there respective countries, to get treatment,
    Alan Shearer went to America to Dr Steadman. One of the first players to do so.
    That was his decision.
    Wasn’t Maxi allowed to go back to France, to get treatment there?

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  • Fenham to Chalfont

    Mar 22, 2024 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #4

    From this Saratoga poster

    “ Those same folks. If Charnley and Bruce were still in charge and this situation became apparent. They would be spitting feathers.
    Talk of wheely bins etc etc.”

    Charnley and Bruce should never ever be uttered in the same breath as Amanda Staveley and Eddie Howe – This Saratoga poster is another Munster in disguise dear me ones bad enough but two is hard to bare. How can you be negative about our new set up and pick faults in everything. Some very strange folk on here.

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  • Munster Mag

    Mar 22, 2024 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #5

    So I guess your comment that you would buy me a pint wasn’t honest then Fenham?

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  • Munster Mag

    Mar 22, 2024 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #6

    Dazzler, as I said ( you must have missed it) I’m not blaming Eddie but I wud have thought that the manager player and medics make a decision. Its not a normal work situation

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  • magicmac54

    Mar 22, 2024 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #7

    After doing a lot of research Eddy giving his informed opinion and views in regards to the stadium, interesting stuff if you haven`t already seen it folks.

    HWTL

    https://youtu.be/IxyqRwUywBg?si=KHO8G3dHbdeGt785

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  • onmeedsun

    Mar 22, 2024 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #8

    I think what’s vital now is that the club make their signings as early as possible and that in doing so they make a statement that reflect our ambition. If it looks like we are struggling to compete in the market and players go elsewhere, then that will not be a good look and further reinforce the impact that PSR is having on us. We really need these rules changed but how? It’s being discussed on a daily basis now by Simon Jordan so perhaps there could be a shift change. But we need it now.

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  • Fenham to Chalfont

    Mar 22, 2024 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #9

    Munster,

    I’d buy everyone off here a pint if I could. Aye even you but I’d probably have to make an excuse up and bail as you would bore me to death with your never ending tales of negativity and depression.

    I’d even buy the troll one but pour the drink over its ugly freaking head.

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  • dazzler

    Mar 22, 2024 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #10

    Munster,

    It isn’t a work situation though. It’s a medical situation, and no matter what the profession the decision is the person’s with the injury.

    Just because it’s a sport and Botman is an athlete doesn’t make a blind bit of difference. Eddie Howe has absolutely no business whatsoever being involved in any medical decisions regarding anyone other than himself, and his children (until they are adults).

    It’s Botman’s knee, therefore it’s Botman’s decision – Howe and the medical team can offer advice and guidance on it – and it’s still Botman’s decision to go with that advice or ignore it if he doesn’t think it’s suitable for him.

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  • Munster Mag

    Mar 22, 2024 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #11

    Entitled to your opinion Fenners. I try to see all sides of a picture and don’t always see the value in repeating all the positives that we see in the club.

    It would easier to do that but if I see tactics etc that I disagree with , I will say it.

    I don’t call that negativity. I could go all happy all the time and be more liked but I don’t give a fcuk about some of the people on here and I think I try to see the full picture rather than the happy one.

    Apparently the head physio is ex Bournemouth and Leicester, both of whom had a bad injury record. Eddie’s last team at Bournemouth was riddled with injuries too

    Maybe it’s a coincidence cud well be.

    But pointing this out will no doubt invite poison from some on here.

    Luckily I can take it because I love man u/Sunderland/Liverpool more ( insert as appropriate) 🙂

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  • Raj of Hailsley

    Mar 22, 2024 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #12

    dazzler,
    No!!!
    Somebody has to be blamed and it can’t be Longstaff or Burn’s fault this time so it has to be Howe.

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  • Munster Mag

    Mar 22, 2024 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #13

    I’m still surprised Botman was playing when he hasn’t looked right at all. Lascelles might have been a better bet. Wud the coaches not have seen how sluggish he has looked, just as the fans did?

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  • dazzler

    Mar 22, 2024 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #14

    Raj,

    Knowing social media there will be some element of our fan base accusing Longstaff and/or Burn of going in on Botman like Keane on Haaland during training 😀

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  • Raj of Hailsley

    Mar 22, 2024 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #15

    Hopefully Leicester getting fined is the straw that breaks the camel’s back and shows to the other 86 clubs how unfair this system is. They won the league and FA Cup ffs, they have continually sold their best players to stay in line with PSR/FFP quite possibly contributing to their relegation and they’ve still come unstuck. How are you meant to compete???

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  • Raj of Hailsley

    Mar 22, 2024 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #16

    Foo# you Munster,
    If Lascelles had of played over Botman you’d have been all over it.

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  • Raj of Hailsley

    Mar 22, 2024 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #17

    dazzler,
    I’d quite believe it 😕

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  • onmeedsun

    Mar 22, 2024 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #18

    Magic
    Watched the arguments re new stadium.
    He never really elaborated on why building in Leazes park was a non option except to say there is no way they’d be allowed to build on the grade 2 listed Victorian terrace that’s in the park. I personally think Leazes park is our only option, but we’d have to then turn SJP into a green park. Tweaking SJP would allow us to keep playing there, but the stadium would be severely compromised and not be the state of the art stadium everyone craves, and that we need for income generation. Knocking SJP down might give us a great stadium, but there’s no way they’ll be able to squeeze 52k into the Gateshead stadium. Just can’t see where we’d play for 2 years.

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  • Raj of Hailsley

    Mar 22, 2024 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #19

    onmeedsun,
    Given the money absolutely sp@nked on the golf, boxing etc what about building a temp 60K while they do it. And then give that to the Eagles and Falcons with adjustments for attendance aesthetics
    Oh noooo stadium-gate 😳

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  • cyprus

    Mar 22, 2024 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #20

    That Minteh guy seems ready. Since we’re ahem, skint, any talented new faces will be needed.

    Like I said , five new top players (not including those for the future – “live in the now man!” Philosopher Wayne), without haemorrhaging the current top crop, and we’ll be back on track.

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  • Munster Mag

    Mar 22, 2024 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #21

    Incorrect at 16 Jail. Not that you will believe it, nor do I care.

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  • Munster Mag

    Mar 22, 2024 at 12:17 PM

    Comment #22

    Pif must find all this an absolute pisser.

    They come in and watch the rich kids pull the ladder up into their rich club loft, and whilst they spunk money into LIV golf they can barely spend Christmas here.

    Shower of basstards running football.

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  • cyprus

    Mar 22, 2024 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #23

    C #3,

    I did detect an accent in that Shearer fella. American eh. Kentucky or Oklahoma, my guess 😉

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  • magscar

    Mar 22, 2024 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #24

    Munster

    We’ve never had issues (and still don’t 😉 )

    I can see negatives as well as the next but for the sake of my mental health I try to always let the positives shine

    Not to say ignore the ones we have (nowt like before) but try not come across as a downer in a lot of posts – keep perspective

    Surely in principle you’re a glass half full man – ours is actually just below brim and wouldn’t need much topping up

    Cmon man despite our poorer season and associated issues the future remains bright we’re on solid ground (far from the swamps of Ashley) with foundations in place – might take longer as we are not bring particularly welcomed so let’s stay positive within 😉

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  • Adamn_92

    Mar 22, 2024 at 12:24 PM

    Comment #25

    Munster

    PIF aren’t dumb, they’ll have been well aware they couldn’t just come and spend what they like. It’s not like they won’t have known the clubs current financial footing, the restricitons of FFP and PSR and the work that will go into building that revenue.

    That’s why they’ve brought in the likes of Eales and Silverstone as well as signing commercial deals every few months.

    None of this will be a surprise or frustration to PIF. They’ll have known all about it, have a plan in place and keep working towards it.

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  • Novocastrian66

    Mar 22, 2024 at 12:32 PM

    Comment #26

    Jail; the problem is, or has been, that the EPL is full of clubs that are happy just to be in the division. They have no desire to do anything more than make up the numbers. As a result they are quite happy to sign up to any bull shit rule because they have no desire to upset the apple cart in case their share of the cake is reduced.
    They have been bullied by the self imposed elite.
    Unless these clubs grow a spine, nothing will change.
    There is hope, Man City have had enough. Villa and ourselves want to change the guard. Now the clubs at the tail end of the league are being punished for having ambition it may stir up these clubs from their malaise.
    I stand by my opinion that it is not a coincidence that the EPL have started prosecuting clubs because of our takeover.
    The EPL power brokers know that if they didn’t act, our owners would blow a huge hole in the PSR rules and anarchy would prevail.

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  • Raj of Hailsley

    Mar 22, 2024 at 12:32 PM

    Comment #27

    Munster,
    I see one of your biggest perceived fears is PiF getting frustrated and giving up.
    If they took the views of ‘Loaded Mag’ as representative of our fan base, they might just think what a bunch of cn@ts and do just that.

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  • Raj of Hailsley

    Mar 22, 2024 at 12:42 PM

    Comment #28

    Anyone heard from the ballot yet?

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  • Raj of Hailsley

    Mar 22, 2024 at 12:51 PM

    Comment #29

    From Nufc.com
    Internationals:
    Call-ups

    Garang Kuol (Australia U23s):
    Thu 21.03.2024 Iraq U23s (n) won 2-1 FR

    The Magpie was a 77th minute arrival from the bench at the Prince Saud Bin Jalawi Stadium in Saudi Arabia when the scoring was complete. His elder brother, Alou, had earlier put the Olyroos 2-0 ahead.

    Sat 23.03.2024 team tbc (n) Saudi Arabia FR
    Tue 26.03.2024 team tbc (n) Saudi Arabia FR

    Alexander Isak/Emil Krafth (Sweden):
    Thu 21.03.2024 Portugal (a) lost 2-5 FR
    Defeat in Guimaraes for incoming Sweden coach Jon Dahl Tomasson, with Isak completing the full game and Krafth appearing as a 60th minute replacement.

    Mon 25.03.2024 Albania (h) Stockholm FR

    Alex Murphy (Ireland U21s):
    Fri 22.03.2024 San Marino U21s (a) San Marino FR

    Lewis Hall, Lewis Miley (England U20s):
    Fri 22.03.2024 Poland (a) Bialystok EL
    Tue 26.03.2024 Czechia (a) Ostrava EL

    Anthony Gordon (England):
    Sat 23.03.2024 Brazil (h) London (Wembley) FR

    Assuming that he appears, Gordon will become the 40th current Magpie to represent the Three Lions since Matt Kingsley against Wales in March 1901.

    Tue 26.03.2024 Belgium (h) London (Wembley) FR

    Bruno Guimaraes (Brazil):
    Sat 23.03.2024 England (a) London (Wembley) FR
    Tue 26.03.2024 Spain (a) Madrid (Bernabeu) FR

    Fabian Schar (Switzerland):
    Sat 23.03.2024 Denmark (a) Copenhagen FR
    Tue 26.03.2024 Ireland (a) Dublin FR

    Martin Dubravka (Slovakia):
    Sat 23.03.2024 Austria (h) Bratislava FR
    Tue 26.03.2024 Norway (a) Oslo FR

    Leo Shahar/Trevan Sanusi (England U17s):
    Sat 23.03.2024 Hungary (h) SGP ECQ
    Tue 26.03.2024 France (h) SGP ECQ

    Wed 20.03.2024 Northern Ireland (h) won 5-1 ECQ
    Leo completed 90 minutes at St.Georges Park and supplied an assist for England’s third goal. Fellow Magpie Trevan remained unused on the bench.

    Johnny Emerson/Charlie McArthur (Scotland U19s):
    Sat 23.03.2024 Georgia (n) Manzano ECQ
    Tue 26.03.2024 Czech Republic (n) Manzano ECQ

    (Emerson’s name also appears in the Scotland U18 squad for away friendlies against Wales on 23.03 and 26.03.)

    Wed 20.03.2024 Italy (a) lost 1-3 ECQ
    Neither Magpie made the matchday squad for this defeat in Lignano Sabbiadoro.

    Miguel Almiron (Paraguay):
    Mon 25.03.2024 Russia (a) Moscow FR

    Jamal Lewis (Northern Ireland):
    Tue 26.03.2024 Scotland (a) Glasgow FR

    (Lewis withdrew from the squad for Saturday’s game against Romania with a foot problem, but still hopes to feature against Scotland).

    PS: although no current Magpies feature, playoffs that will decide the remaining three places at this summer’s Euro 2024 Finals conclude on Tuesday:

    Tue 26.03.2024:
    Wales v Poland
    Ukraine v Iceland
    Georgia v Greece

    The Georgia squad includes Valencia goalkeeper Giorgi Mamardashvili, who has been scouted several times by Newcastle.

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  • Raj of Hailsley

    Mar 22, 2024 at 12:53 PM

    Comment #30

    Fun Fact.
    Bruno Guimaraes is named after a town/city in Portugal, like being called Bruno Colchester 😀

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  • magicmac54

    Mar 22, 2024 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #31

    Onmeedsun

    As regards the stadium it`s a very difficult one to predict, and will divide opinion within the fanbase, i understand a lot of fans will feel an emotional attachment to Saint James, and as humans most of us invariable don`t like change. My honest opinion is Saint James is looking dated and old-fashioned now compared to a lot of the new stadiums being build around the world, so from my perspectivel an new state of the art stadium would be my personal preference mate. What`s you`re personal preference Onmeedsun, and more importantly what do you think will happen in the end?

    HWTL

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  • magscar

    Mar 22, 2024 at 1:27 PM

    Comment #32

    Jail
    I’ve not heard from ballot so no tickets yet again – applied for most home games and never yet been succesful

    Let my feelings be known in club survey last week as only benefit from membership has been reduced entrance costs for stadium tour and money off in Shearers – not an every season experience

    Need to have better chance of getting tickets or not going to pay for just the right to enter ballot next year

    I do realise that it may be difficult to manage the ballot to everyone’s satisfaction but not worth it for me as it stands

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  • magicmac54

    Mar 22, 2024 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #33

    This West Ham fan also talking FFP and the corruption within the premier league, and also making a reference about Newcastle not being aloud to spend despite having the richest owners in the world.

    https://youtu.be/YonmJzl7I74?si=oHmnmMbt3YAq6EkY

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  • Mister Tuff

    Mar 22, 2024 at 1:53 PM

    Comment #34

    Dazzler – I think you are wrong in your earlier post in stating (my interpretation) that a persons employment has nothing to do with that persons medical treatment.
    In the case of elite athletes (in contrast to the ordinary man in the street) there are different considerations about their treatments and whether they will return to the same level.

    You just need to Google the topic to see explanations better than mine.

    Plus how do we know for definite that Botman did not discuss his possible treatments with the manager – note not for the manager to decide the outcome . He may have done.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Mar 22, 2024 at 1:58 PM

    Comment #35

    Conversation that did not happen.
    EH – “hi Sven how did your appointment with the knee specialist go today.”
    Botman – ” That is my private medical business and it’s got fu** all to do with you”.

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  • magscar

    Mar 22, 2024 at 2:03 PM

    Comment #36

    Magic

    I was contacted by cub ( presumably along with other members and ST holders ) to complete survey about SJP and a new stadium

    Maybe oher posters mentioned at time – few monthsl ago?

    I can’t remember all the questions but was quite comprehensive including what i night be prepared to pay ticketing, food wise etc

    They have Architectural consultants involved and are widely consulting so it’s a growing issue to be resolved one way or the other

    I.m torn having being going to ground since late 60’s and throughout each stage of redevelopment

    Still a great ground but with issues when compared to best here and in Europe

    As much as i love SJP if we can’t resolve most of problems including tickets by further redevelopment then we have to consider a move but on the proviso its withing the inner city rather than way out of town and we somehow can keep our “soul”

    Moving gets over the inevitable problems in redeveloping SJP whilst keeping it open as we have been able to do thus far but not maybe new ones without loss/moving of ST

    There isn’t a viable stadium even with temporary stands that could accomodate current crowd (even if away fans temporarily stopped} anywhere nearby to house us whilst rebuild is underway – including Stadium of Plight !

    There was big issue years ago in John Hall’s time about ST and “bond ” holders being moved to accomodate redevelopment of Corporate places and “Save Our Seats” was born. Although i was a bond holder i was in Gallowgate and not directly affected

    Ultimately they lost their case as it was determined that they had a right to “a” seat not necesarily the same one in perpetua

    Development or new stadium is likely to see more happen on the corporate type of seat as it’s a moneyspinner (and we need it) but hopefully not to the exclusion of more of the cheap seats

    We might have to bite the bullet on this one in the best interests of future generations as well but it’s a vexed question splitting fans and without an obvious solution that can satisfy all

    Other clubs have had to move and many fans seem to have accepted it although West Ham ones not so much but mainly related to a stadium not purpose built for football

    Staying where they were wasn’t viable though and there is a price to pay – hopefully ours is nowhere near a “London Stadium” type of ground

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  • Munster Mag

    Mar 22, 2024 at 2:18 PM

    Comment #37

    Jail the Loaded guys come across as loyal passionate and funny ( at times ) guys, which is exactly what they are.

    You just can’t stand anyone who isn’t clapping all the time.

    That’s strange and that’s what you are.

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  • Munster Mag

    Mar 22, 2024 at 2:24 PM

    Comment #38

    Magscar a few repetitive morons on here won’t believe it, but I’m very happy with the ownership , club direction, manager etc.

    But I’ve never believed in the glass half full/empty analogy.

    I tend to just drink what’s in the glass and get on with it 🙂

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  • Munster Mag

    Mar 22, 2024 at 2:46 PM

    Comment #39

    Especially if its Blossom Hill

    ( joke!!!)

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  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Mar 22, 2024 at 2:47 PM

    Comment #40

    The club can and probably do use the best medical specialists in the world for the likes of Botman. When you are talking about investments worth millions of pounds they would be total idiots if they didn’t and i don’t think that charge can be made against them.

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