With Manchester United playing well and beating Manchester City 2-1 at Wembley yesterday in the FA Cup Final it ended Newcastle’s last chance of a place in the Europa League Conference – so no European competition next season for Newcastle.
It’s like going back two years ago before Eddie Howe had his first full season at Newcastle and we made the Carabao Cup Final only to lose 2-0 to Manchester United.
It doesn’t look like the win yesterday will save Erik ten Hag’s career at the Red Devils, and he is still expected to be replaced.
It was hard luck on us but with respect, the Red Devils deserved their win yesterday and had an excellent game plan which seemed to work almost to perfection.
Newcastle’s season was brutal with all the extra games and injuries we picked up and we have to think this season has to be one of consolidation and we must learn from last season’s endeavors.
We played 51 games last season and with a win ratio of 45.1%.
The season before last, we played 46 total games with a win ratio of 52.2% – so we expect around the same number of games this season.
We will have less games this season but our season goals surely have to be to win a local Cup win and to again finish in the top four as we did the season before last.
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1,236 comments so far
Saratoga
May 28, 2024 at 6:01 PM
Comment #321Mention there of keepers being good with their feet etc.
Man City no 2 Ortega has a reputation for being good with his feet.
Passing it out etc.
Think he over did it in the cup final.
Almost caught out a couple of times before the first goal.
Nowt worse than trying to live up to your reputation.
Charlie in the Gallowgate
May 28, 2024 at 6:03 PM
Comment #322Never seen the Toon win at Wembley
Only team I seen wining at Wembley was Blue Star
Saratoga
May 28, 2024 at 6:10 PM
Comment #323Onmeheed
With your background in finance.
Have you read the Mag article re FFP.
Bruno cost 40M on a 5 year deal. After 2 years his value for FFP has dropped to 24M. Signs a new deal and it drops again.
In reality he is worth 2.5 times what we paid for him.
However, that does not count unless we actually sell him.
In terms of real depreciation I’m not seeing a lot of it.
Ritchie – 12M to buy but was here 8 yrs. Murphy similar.
Schar and Lascelles etc cost next to nowt.
The big signings have not depreciated in the real market. In fact their value has gone up.
Think we have more to spend than some think. Just don’t tell anybody.
Hibbit
May 28, 2024 at 6:12 PM
Comment #324Never seen the Toon win at Wembley
Only team I seen wining at Wembley was North Shields š
Munster Mag
May 28, 2024 at 6:24 PM
Comment #325Lee I’d be delighted with Spor. I think his international experience is more than Dougie could have brought and will balance Eddie’s leaning towards prem experience.
Whether people like it or not we have regressed this season and we need progess now.
Spor could be very good for us with his multi club experience and history of adding value to.players.
His cv is broad, he’s young and considered highly experienced and I think his European outlook is perfect for us.
onmeedsun
May 28, 2024 at 6:45 PM
Comment #326Munster
The key if we do appoint Spors is that him and Eddie can work together and have enough in common when it comes to football philosophy etc. I would hope that Eddie gets to meet him before any contracts are signed.
onmeedsun
May 28, 2024 at 6:54 PM
Comment #327Saratoga
Iāve been retired 3 years now but I would gladly give the club a free day a week if theyād let me take a look at their PSR model. I would have loved that sort of dynamic forecasting. Iām sure the CFO is all over it and takes it to bed with him at night!
The depreciation charges are what drives the profit and loss, together with wages. When players are out of contract there are no depreciation charges, which helps the club as that frees up depreciation charges for new players. If Bruno has signed a time extension to his original contract then it may be possible to spread his remaining transfer fee over this new term, thereby reducing the annual charge. But if we do replace Ritchie and Dummett then those transfer fees will hit the depreciation charge and represent an increase in costs, as the leaving players had no depreciation charge. However, if we get any fees for those leaving then we get to take 100% to profit which can be offset against the new depreciation charges. The beauty of a simple spreadsheet!
Fat Basta*d
May 28, 2024 at 6:54 PM
Comment #328Chilli sauce with donner kebab and wedges mmmmm
captainmarvel
May 28, 2024 at 7:07 PM
Comment #329The only way you can measure regression is if the same players play against the same teams the following year.
It is clearly not the case, the theory is flawed.
Given the circumstances we have done better because of the extra games and the injuries.
Lee Charnley Bunga Party
May 28, 2024 at 7:07 PM
Comment #330@Saratoga
Yeah I do think there’s a balance to be had with keepers in terms of how they perform in possession
Pope was very lucky against Brentford with that passage of play where he got fouled but on another day he’s giving a penalty or a goal away with that bad touch he just looked so uncomfortable with the ball as he always does
I think as we progress as a team Pope’s lack of kicking skills will be exposed more because It almost results In us losing the ball everytime he has it!
Means we have to try win it back and get exhausted chasing the ball or cant spring attacks from the keeper which better teams than us use to their advantage
Saratoga
May 28, 2024 at 7:24 PM
Comment #331Onmeheed
Cheers. If you would consider coming out of retirement I will get Amanda to give you a call.
Seriously though. I don’t understand the complex side of FFP. I don’t want to really. What’s the point. I’m not in charge and never will be.
One thing my life experience has taught me. Authority and accountability go together. You never seperate the two. If you have authority over who comes and goes you have to accept that it’s you that’s accountable.
Never let a committee decide. You know what they say about a Camel.
Arsenal. David Dein had the final say. However, what existed between him and Wenger was trust and loyalty. From that you get confidence, motivation and good will.
Saratoga
May 28, 2024 at 7:27 PM
Comment #332Lee
Agreed.
Pope was good/is good at sweeping, which is a different skill.
One time it let him down was against Liverpool.
His sending off I think may well have cost us the win in the final.
magicmac54
May 28, 2024 at 7:37 PM
Comment #333Coming Home@314
Jeez that was a bit extreme and over the top against poor Munster mate, I thought you said you loved the Irish š š š
HWTL
Fat Basta*d
May 28, 2024 at 7:55 PM
Comment #334Cu*t Home will do anything to rim fatty fenners
JohnJ
May 28, 2024 at 8:16 PM
Comment #335onmeedsun 307, & Bills 310 and all other mature fans.
Itās just a matter of time before we do win a prize but I just hope Itās soon!
I was also at SJP to see Newcastle United win the first leg of the Fairs Cup in 1969 and most of the other home games including the Semi against Rangers. I also recall being huddled round my āTransistor Radioā listening to the away leg! No TV in those days! But we did it and thatās the only prize Iāve seen Toon lift as I just missed the Fifties cup wins. I pray that Iāll be around to seen Wor lads lift the EPL cup then I could die a happy chappy!
check the toastie
May 28, 2024 at 8:18 PM
Comment #336Saratoga – i think yer right. Pope getting sent off seemed to start a whole sense of doom to the cup final as soon as he seen red.
Karius is miles away from a good keeper. Nice fella tho. But a loser. Just like our club. Perennial losers. Everyone cheered the lads off the pitch which was great, but we choked and lost.
That cup final loss was brutal. Thought we would win but in hindsight we froze.
However it took Man Utd a long time to win something under Red Nose. Fingers crossed Eddie gets us to another cup final.
Or we win the league next year. Reckon we could go close with good summer Recruitment and no injuries.
Mund
May 28, 2024 at 8:18 PM
Comment #337How have we regressed?
Because we are not on the CL?
We were 2/3 years ahead of schedule
One of the worst records for injuries in a season and we finish 7th with the possibility of finishing anywhere from 7th to 5th in the last couple of games.
We should be applauding Eddie and the team for achieving what they have.
Donāt like the entitled lot we have inherited
Lee Charnley Bunga Party
May 28, 2024 at 8:18 PM
Comment #338@Munster
As long as Spors isn’t involved in any shady business with the 777 group then he would be good
He seems to have experience of signing physical and also technical players which is what we need more of
Guys who can do the hard yards but can also keep possession the players he signed at Genoa using statistics they are all expected to move for good money this summer Spurs signed that Dragushin in January and he’s quality
Mund
May 28, 2024 at 8:19 PM
Comment #339Check
SAF was on the verge of being sacked. It was very close. Just imagine if they swung the hammer instead of sticking with him.
check the toastie
May 28, 2024 at 8:20 PM
Comment #340And we havent regressed. Thats bollocks. We have had a disastrous year losing Joeās and Tonali plus Botman, Pope and many others.
Realistically are we expecting top 4 this season. Would have been a miracle.
JohnJ
May 28, 2024 at 8:22 PM
Comment #341Mund,
He may have ended up at Wor club!
check the toastie
May 28, 2024 at 8:23 PM
Comment #342Shame they didnt sack him. Always think he got lucky red nose.
Spent fortunes then inherited half a dozen world class players from the youth setup. That stayed for ten years. When they started to retire his team went downhill.
Hated Ferguson. Was a total cnut.
Mund
May 28, 2024 at 8:24 PM
Comment #343Magpie Media
@MagpieMediaX
– NEW – Understand #NUFC right-back Kieran Trippier is now very likely to move to Saudi Arabia in the summer window.
Newcastle are willing to accept offers in the region of Ā£15million for the England international, who turns 34 in September – and there are several Saudi Pro League clubs interested in his signature.
Trippier, who joined the Magpies in January 2022, enjoyed two talismanic seasons in black and white – often as captain – but the 23/24 campaign saw a drastic decline in his form, in a campaign which he made several errors leading to detrimental goals conceded.
Newcastle see Tino Livramento as a more than capable first-choice candidate in the right-back position going into next season, with Emil Krafth and exciting youngster Leo Shahar set to be his backups.
#NUFCFans #PL #Transfers #SPL
Mund
May 28, 2024 at 8:26 PM
Comment #344JohnJ
Glad he didnāt mate,
The one that got away was SBRā¦ I know give me a sec š
When Keegan left we contacted SBR and he agreed to take the job then overnight SBR decided to stay loyal to Barcelona and the end of the year SBR was replaced by LVG.
I always think what could of been if we got SBR then instead of Dalglish who I hate for his dismantling of Keeganās stars
Raj of Hailsley
May 28, 2024 at 8:26 PM
Comment #345We progressed this season not regressed.
check the toastie
May 28, 2024 at 8:27 PM
Comment #346Then left a shambles when he retired. They have never recovered from the way he ran the club.
At times he ran it incredibly dubiously. Agents, family and dodgy relationships, nepotism came before his beloved club. Hate that, creates division. Few unethical bob been made thats for sure..
Mund
May 28, 2024 at 8:27 PM
Comment #347Check
Canāt stand SAF! Horrible cnut
Mund
May 28, 2024 at 8:28 PM
Comment #348If we can get 15M for Trips then thatās a superb deal to make money on an ageing star even after 2 and a half seasons
Loads of our players will be linked to Saudi tho over the coming weeks.
Lots to happen
Mund
May 28, 2024 at 8:31 PM
Comment #349Newcastle United’s preseason tour of Japan will bank us around Ā£7m this summer, with Far East electronic and phones company Docomo funding the two-game tour, according to The Chronicle. Add this to the Ā£3m we expected to make from the Australian end of season tour and you can see why they decided to clock up the air miles!
They are also reporting that Newcastle are looking to maximise our income with progress on a training ground sponsor!
#NUFC #NUFCFans #Newcastle
check the toastie
May 28, 2024 at 8:32 PM
Comment #350Raj – i think youre right.
Just struggled for a couple of month due to injury list.
However if we strike the same injury list next year, something is fundamentally wrong behind the scenes.
check the toastie
May 28, 2024 at 8:33 PM
Comment #351Its all going in the right direction, owners are doing their best under the current constraints
JohnJ
May 28, 2024 at 8:35 PM
Comment #352Mund,
Canāt say I had a lot of time for Kenny D!
Saratoga
May 28, 2024 at 8:38 PM
Comment #353Toastie
Re our last final. I think the players were mega disappointed. They thought they had the beating of Man Utd.
They were right. We stuffed them the next 3 times we played them. Should have beaten them in the last game we played.
Just didnt do it at Wembley.
Big games need big players.
Raj of Hailsley
May 28, 2024 at 8:49 PM
Comment #354Last season the vast majority would have been happy with 8th, not all but from comments on here and twitter 8th would have been very satisfactory. So in a funny way then 7th is progression, I think anything less than 7th next season would have to be looked at as regression.
Munster Mag
May 28, 2024 at 8:58 PM
Comment #355I wudnt disagree but only a clappy on here would say that mot being in the CL, not being in Europe at all, is not a regression. And not being in a Cup final
So we did the same as last year or better.
I want some of the stuff you boys smoke.
Lee Charnley Bunga Party
May 28, 2024 at 9:00 PM
Comment #356@Mund
The time is right to move on Trips imo
He’s just not got the pace or the concentration anymore for some reason looks full of errors
Saudi league means he gets to wind down with an easy competition
Although imagine his wife who wanted to come home might not be keen on Saudi!!!
lochinvar
May 28, 2024 at 9:05 PM
Comment #357Once again we see the slimey six trying to protect their cartel by trying to weaken the opposition by buying up the best players and hoovering up younger emerging talent to linger on their benches.
The sooner their grip is broken by United, Villa, Palace and others the better.
check the toastie
May 28, 2024 at 9:13 PM
Comment #358Dont want to be harsh on Tripps but he does look a touch washed up. Been really poor for 6 month. Father time waits for no man.
How Southgate thinks he is sound for England illustrates how shite he is.
check the toastie
May 28, 2024 at 9:15 PM
Comment #359He has been an unreal signing for us mind. Something clearly bothering him from about November time.
lochinvar
May 28, 2024 at 9:18 PM
Comment #360European Super League just won’t go away.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cw55dqlv5nno